Okay I rebased -- should https://hamilton.staged.apache.org/ be being
populated now as I have `asf-staging
<https://github.com/apache/hamilton/tree/asf-staging>` with all the HTML
under content? or?

On Mon, Jun 16, 2025 at 11:13 PM Stefan Krawczyk <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Cool I created this PR for that piece then
> <https://github.com/apache/hamilton/pull/1344>.
>
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2025 at 2:29 AM PJ Fanning <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The .asf.yaml will need to be merged but we can use a different PR for
>> this.
>>
>> On Mon, 16 Jun 2025 at 04:48, Stefan Krawczyk <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Cool. @PJ I have it building <
>> https://github.com/apache/hamilton/pull/1339>
>> > and pushing to the asf-staging branch.  I assume we need to merge
>> .asf.yaml
>> > to main before it takes effect? Should we do a separate PR for that?
>> Then I
>> > can test this PR more thoroughly by having the staging branch deployed
>> (I
>> > know I will need to change some links)?
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, Jun 14, 2025 at 7:42 AM PJ Fanning <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > The asf yaml docs are at
>> > >
>> https://github.com/apache/infrastructure-asfyaml/blob/main/README.md#deploy
>> > >
>> > > We probably need a section like
>> > >
>> > > publish:
>> > >   whoami:    asf-site
>> > >   subdir:    content
>> > >
>> > > where asf-site is the branch and content is the dir in that branch.
>> > > These 2 values are good ones as they are the most common ones used in
>> > > other ASF projects.
>> > > These settings should mean that hamilton.apache.org is redeployed
>> > > every time the asf-site branch is updated.
>> > >
>> > > If you read the asf yaml docs, there is also the concept of a staging
>> > > web site - a preview one.
>> > >
>> > > staging:
>> > >   whoami:  asf-staging
>> > >   subdir:    content
>> > >
>> > > asf-staging is the most common branch used for this.
>> > > These settings should mean that hamilton.staged.apache.org is
>> > > redeployed every time the asf-staging branch is updated.
>> > > We don't necessarily need to use this staging web site but the support
>> > > for it is there. It can be a nice way to try out changes without
>> > > affecting the main site.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 at 15:30, Stefan Krawczyk <
>> [email protected]>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > okay yeah I have a githhub workflow (see this PR
>> > > > <https://github.com/apache/hamilton/pull/1339>) that builds the
>> docs. I
>> > > can
>> > > > push it to a different branch other than main placing it under
>> /content
>> > > > (currently it publishes the artifact to github). I think I saw the
>> > > > .asf.yaml support that option. That should work right?
>> > > >
>> > > > On Sat, Jun 14, 2025 at 7:23 AM PJ Fanning <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > If the website code can't be readily removed from apache/hamilton
>> repo
>> > > > > - then we can just leave it as is. We can set up .asf.yaml in the
>> > > > > apache/hamilton repo to publish the website.
>> > > > > I think the default is to have the website static content in the
>> > > > > 'content' directory.
>> > > > > Stefan - can you build the static content for the website and put
>> it
>> > > > > in the 'content' directory.
>> > > > > I can then try to set up .asf.yaml to deploy it.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 at 15:09, Stefan Krawczyk <
>> > > [email protected]>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I can see a separate hamilton-site repo that contains the
>> landing
>> > > page,
>> > > > > but
>> > > > > > what about documentation that relies on source code (which is
>> what
>> > > > > > hamilton.dagworks.io currently is)? We'd still need a process
>> to
>> > > > > generate
>> > > > > > that and push it somewhere to be published?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Sat, Jun 14, 2025 at 2:43 AM PJ Fanning <
>> [email protected]>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > It would be my preference to separate out the website docs
>> from
>> > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/hamilton/ and put them in a
>> separate
>> > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/hamilton-site/ repo.
>> > > > > > > It simplifies the release of Apache Hamilton if we don't need
>> to
>> > > worry
>> > > > > > > about reviewers having to check the source headers and
>> licensing of
>> > > > > > > everything needed for the website build too.
>> > > > > > > The simplest initial set up is to have apache/hamilton-site
>> git
>> > > repo
>> > > > > > > set up so that a Hamilton team member can checkout the
>> > > > > > > apache/hamilton-site git repo and run the build on their own
>> > > machine.
>> > > > > > > The HTML etc for the website gets generated to a directory
>> like
>> > > > > > > `content` or `publish`. The Hamilton team member can then
>> commit
>> > > the
>> > > > > > > content or publish directory into git. We can configure the
>> > > .asf.yaml
>> > > > > > > file so that the website is redeployed based on git commits
>> that
>> > > > > > > include changes to the `content` or `publish` dir.
>> > > > > > > We can look into trying to automate this later. It will need
>> time
>> > > to
>> > > > > > > interact with ASF Infra team to be allowed to have automated
>> jobs
>> > > > > > > commit to the git repo.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 at 07:24, Stefan Krawczyk <
>> > > > > [email protected]>
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Okay just so I mentally I understand.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > 1. We can have documentation source live under /docs
>> > > > > > > > 2. When a PR that changes docs is created/merged we can
>> kick off
>> > > a
>> > > > > github
>> > > > > > > > workflow that builds these docs
>> > > > > > > > 3. Is it correct that we could then push this built HTML to
>> this
>> > > > > other
>> > > > > > > > hamilton-site repo? Is that correct?
>> > > > > > > > 4. Then using the `.asf.yaml` in the hamilton-site repo, we
>> > > could use
>> > > > > > > > the .asf.yaml
>> > > > > > > > directives
>> > > > > > > > <
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INFRA/git+-+.asf.yaml+features#Git.asf.yamlfeatures-WebsitedeploymentserviceforGitrepositories
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > to then publish which would update hamilton.apache.org.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Is that right?
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Cheers,
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Stefan
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 9, 2025 at 5:02 AM PJ Fanning <
>> [email protected]>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Redirecting to dev mailing list. Private mailing list is
>> for 2
>> > > > > things
>> > > > > > > > > - discussing and voting on new committers and discussing
>> > > security
>> > > > > > > > > issues. Everything else is meant to be discussed in
>> public.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > The main doc for web site publishing is:
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> https://github.com/apache/infrastructure-asfyaml/blob/main/README.md
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > We already have a DNS entry set up for
>> hamilton.apache.org.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Most ASF projects push the static content for their web
>> site
>> > > to a
>> > > > > > > > > directory in a git repo. We can create an
>> apache/hamilton-site
>> > > repo
>> > > > > > > > > for this.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > There are other approaches that might be feasible. One
>> example
>> > > is
>> > > > > > > > > pekko.apache.org content - most of it is rsynced to
>> > > > > > > > > nightlies.apache.org and we use .htaccess files deployed
>> to
>> > > > > > > > > pekko.apache.org to allow the nightlies.apache.org
>> content to
>> > > be
>> > > > > > > > > accessed as if it was deployed directly to
>> pekko.apache.org.
>> > > This
>> > > > > > > > > avoids having to git commit the generated content (only
>> the
>> > > > > markdown
>> > > > > > > > > files from which the HTML is generated are in git).
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 at 04:57, Stefan Krawczyk <
>> > > > > [email protected]>
>> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Hi Mentors,
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > I assume hamilton.apache.org is the front page for the
>> > > project?
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > I think it would currently make sense for the current
>> docs
>> > > page
>> > > > > to be
>> > > > > > > > > under that domain.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > So to enable that, what do we need to do?
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > 1. The current docs are hosted on readthedocs.org --
>> can we
>> > > > > > > continue to
>> > > > > > > > > use that? or?
>> > > > > > > > > > 2. If so, then we can add a new domain -
>> hamilton.apache.org
>> > > > > which
>> > > > > > > > > would require a CNAME target to be added ..
>> > > > > > > > > > 3. If not, the current docs are sphinx docs, how could
>> we
>> > > migrate
>> > > > > > > them
>> > > > > > > > > to the apache approved place?
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Stefan
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > >
>>
>

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