Hi Julian, Fair points, as always.
I can only speak for myself, but I think most people in the community mainly expected votes and feedback on this first RC from our mentors and possibly other people who are more familiar with the Apache Way. That said, we can definitely do more. We can add some information about the release process to our community page[1]: a brief explanation of the release/voting process, a checklist of what the community can do to review a release, a quick explanation of the binding vs non-binding votes etc. There is a lot of information available about the release and voting processes, but I guess expecting people to go out and find that information on their own before they start to review and vote won't work. Regards, Bart [1] https://hop.apache.org/community/contributing/ On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 1:20 AM Julian Hyde <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, Hop community, > > “It takes a village to raise a child”, so the saying goes, and it takes a > community to make a good release. Making releases, and in particular > reviewing and voting for releases, is a central part of the Apache Way. > > Hans created a release candidate (RC) 3 days ago and so far there has only > been 1 vote [1]. I encourage everyone to download the release, review it, > and send an email casting your vote. PPMC members’ votes are binding, but > the opinion of committers and other people in the community matters, too. > > You might say, ‘What’s the point of voting, since Julian has already cast > a -1 vote?’. Two reasons. First, a -1 vote is not a veto; a release vote > with 5 +1 votes and 2 -1 votes would pass, because there are 3 more +1 > votes than -1 votes. (That said, the release manager has the power to > cancel a release candidate even if it has the enough +1 votes.) Second, > even if the RC fails, we would like to know all of the issues in this RC so > that we can fix them in the next RC. > > So, please vote on RC1 as soon as you can. > > Hans, > > Usually the release manager casts a vote when they send out the vote > email. E.g. “Here is my vote: +1.” > > Julian > > [1] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r7415319f474f20c4715f291d27a133355124a9bd10aeccf1904b45c4%40%3Cdev.hop.apache.org%3E
