Hi Julian, Thanks for the extra explanation, as stated by Matt I thought during incubation the only votes that counted were those of the IPMC. For me it is clear what should be checked. It is written down in the incubator cookbook [1], but it is hard to find how or what approach you need to take to check all these items thoroughly.
eg. that icomoon.ttf file, I would have never noticed that we had it. Cheers, Hans [1] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 10:12 AM Matt Casters <[email protected]> wrote: > I asked around and Hans even thought I couldn't or shouldn't vote. > Thanks for listing the things you checked because it was and still is very > unclear to me. > > Cheers, > Matt > > Op zo 20 dec. 2020 08:43 schreef Bart Maertens <[email protected]>: > > > Hi Julian, > > > > Fair points, as always. > > > > I can only speak for myself, but I think most people in the community > > mainly expected votes and feedback on this first RC from our mentors and > > possibly other people who are more familiar with the Apache Way. > > > > That said, we can definitely do more. We can add some information about > the > > release process to our community page[1]: a brief explanation of the > > release/voting process, a checklist of what the community can do to > review > > a release, a quick explanation of the binding vs non-binding votes etc. > > There is a lot of information available about the release and voting > > processes, but I guess expecting people to go out and find that > information > > on their own before they start to review and vote won't work. > > > > Regards, > > Bart > > > > [1] https://hop.apache.org/community/contributing/ > > > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 1:20 AM Julian Hyde <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi, Hop community, > > > > > > “It takes a village to raise a child”, so the saying goes, and it > takes a > > > community to make a good release. Making releases, and in particular > > > reviewing and voting for releases, is a central part of the Apache Way. > > > > > > Hans created a release candidate (RC) 3 days ago and so far there has > > only > > > been 1 vote [1]. I encourage everyone to download the release, review > it, > > > and send an email casting your vote. PPMC members’ votes are binding, > but > > > the opinion of committers and other people in the community matters, > too. > > > > > > You might say, ‘What’s the point of voting, since Julian has already > cast > > > a -1 vote?’. Two reasons. First, a -1 vote is not a veto; a release > vote > > > with 5 +1 votes and 2 -1 votes would pass, because there are 3 more +1 > > > votes than -1 votes. (That said, the release manager has the power to > > > cancel a release candidate even if it has the enough +1 votes.) Second, > > > even if the RC fails, we would like to know all of the issues in this > RC > > so > > > that we can fix them in the next RC. > > > > > > So, please vote on RC1 as soon as you can. > > > > > > Hans, > > > > > > Usually the release manager casts a vote when they send out the vote > > > email. E.g. “Here is my vote: +1.” > > > > > > Julian > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r7415319f474f20c4715f291d27a133355124a9bd10aeccf1904b45c4%40%3Cdev.hop.apache.org%3E > > >
