Hi Ricardo,

The issue is not the spam itself we can delete issues and comments in our
Jira project too. But we have to report them to the ASF Infra team to
delete the user. This is putting quite a lot of strain on their team in the
past year over 10.000 accounts have been created on the Jira server. As
they want to migrate to Jira cloud (and will have to pay per user) the only
solution they see is restricting user creation.

So this part of the discussion is final and can’t be changed this means
users can no longer create their own account in the near future.

This means we will have to adjust our workflow…. I think we have 2 options,
accept this (extra burden?) and create a ticket when we get a mail, or
create an account for that user. This however might increase the threshold
for people wanting to submit an issue….

Or we move to a platform where public account creation is active Github
Issues, our own Jira, or random platform X….

Cheers,
Hans



On 24 October 2022 at 16:18:40, Ricardo Gouvea ([email protected])
wrote:

I understand the situation Hans, but even migrating to GH, wouldn't we have
the same Spam problems?

Cheers,

Em seg., 24 de out. de 2022 às 11:06, Hans Van Akelyen <
[email protected]> escreveu:

> Hi All,
>
> This mail is related to a mail that is going around in the users@infra
> mailinglist [1] (log-in is required to view this mail).
>
> TL;DR:
> The Apache infra team is planning to disable public sign-up to Jira,
there
> will be a self-service tool for PMC members to create accounts for people
> that would like to have an account. There has been an ongoing fight with
> spam users creating accounts and tickets/comments on our Jira server,
they
> are also planning to move to Jira cloud and this would also restrict us
to
> a maximum number of accounts on Foundation level.
>
> These changes would mean that users will only be able to create tickets
> after contacting us to create an account or describe issues via the
public
> mailing list.
>
> Here are a couple of things that come to mind and would really love to
have
> input, on how you all feel about this. I will list my ideas, feel free to
> write down everything that comes to mind. I will not yet formulate my
final
> preference as it might bias things.
>
> 1) We could keep everything as-is, this would mean that when a user
> approaches us with an issue we either create an account for this user, or
> create the issue ourselves.
> Pros:
> - All issues will be logged on the mailinglist
> - We can ask/add additional information before a ticket is created
> - We can add a user to Jira when he plans on creating multiple issues and
> do the follow-up
> Cons:
> - More work on our side to create tickets/users
> - Users will have to find their way to the mailing lists
> - Users will not get notifications if their issue is being worked on (if
> created by us)
>
> 2) Move to another issue platform (Github Issues)
> Pros:
> - Users can create their own tickets again (more inclusive)
> - Tighter coupling with our source code (issue linking does work better
in
> GH)
> - Everything on one platform
> Cons:
> - Migration of our current issues
> - Triage work on the issues
> - More work short term to change all our docs/references/...
>
>
> Cheers,
> Hans
>
> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/jx9d7sp690ro660pjpttwtg209w3m39w
>


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