Looking at https://www.youtube.com/@ApacheIceberg/playlists, there are also many other talks and even tutorials, what about those?
-Jack On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 2:45 PM Brian Olsen <bitsondata...@gmail.com> wrote: > Update: I moved the video and playlist to a Private status until this is > discussed. In the meantime, we'll wait to hear some guidance from the PMC > and community to advise. Otherwise, I suggest that Jonathan and Kevin > create an unofficial community Apache Iceberg Meetups channel that follows > the trademark guidelines: https://apache.org/foundation/marks/ but > have asked them to give some time to let others respond. > > Thanks all! > > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 4:41 PM Brian Olsen <bitsondata...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hey Ryan, >> >> I will take that down, apologies for that confusion. I remember having >> some discussion around this before and my recollection was this was more of >> a concern about vendor content but after I read your reply I remembered >> this was a more general ASF sentiment. So with that, I still think >> distributing these through various channels would be valuable, while >> exposing them through playlists. For example, we added the Data Council >> talk you gave a while back where the video is hosted on Data Council's >> channel, but we've added it to the "Iceberg Talks Playlist". >> >> Perhaps this would be a matter of having the PMC create some guidance on >> certain playlists like the meetups playlist I just created and then I can >> add videos from other channels that say Kevin and others own to upload >> Iceberg meetups and we can push visibility to certain videos from their >> channels that meet the criteria (like avoiding talks that are pushing a >> particular vendor or product for example). Would this align more with what >> you have in mind to avoid endorsements? >> >> On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 3:59 PM Ryan Blue <b...@databricks.com.invalid> >> wrote: >> >>> I strongly prefer not posting meetup videos on an official Apache >>> Iceberg channel. >>> >>> That's why we have up until now used the channel only for videos from >>> sanctioned Iceberg events >>> <https://www.youtube.com/@ApacheIceberg/videos>, like community syncs >>> or the Apache Iceberg Summit. I wasn't aware that Bits posted the last >>> Seattle meetup video. >>> >>> An "official" distribution channel like this (one controlled by the >>> Iceberg PMC) needs to be careful about posting content because it can be >>> seen as an endorsement and there are reasonable objections around posting >>> some videos (for instance, they are strongly biased to a particular >>> solution or vendor). I don't want the PMC to be in the business of deciding >>> what gets to be on the official channel or not -- that's a whole set of >>> arguments that I think we want to steer clear of. This is also the reason >>> why the Iceberg site doesn't host blog posts, by the way. We originally had >>> requests for people to post articles, but I don't think it is wise for the >>> project to decide what opinions can be posted there. >>> >>> I think that we should remove the last meetup video and only post >>> content like the community sync videos. For everything else, I think it is >>> a good idea to have a separate channel. We can link to those channels to >>> make them easy to find, but we don't want to be in the middle when someone >>> has an opinion about what should or should not be posted and should not be >>> seen as endorsing any particular solutions. >>> >>> Ryan >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 1:44 PM Jack Ye <yezhao...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> > posting/content management privileges to the Iceberg YouTube channel >>>> for these meetup recordings >>>> >>>> This sounds reasonable to me, when the meetup is recurring. So I am >>>> good with doing this for the Seattle meetup series. We have technically >>>> already done so for Bits for the community sync meeting series. >>>> >>>> Thoughts? >>>> >>>> -Jack >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 1:23 PM Jonathan Leang <leangjonat...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hey all, >>>>> >>>>> I have a question related to some questions about shared >>>>> administration of Apache Iceberg social/marketing channels such as YouTube >>>>> in this specific instance. Kevin Liu and I have organized the first >>>>> Seattle >>>>> Iceberg meetups and it looks like there will be a steady stream of >>>>> technical talks about things like proposals and more generally recent >>>>> developments in the project. Bits (Brian Olsen) helped us get the most >>>>> recent meetup posted on the Apache Iceberg YouTube channel but we're >>>>> hoping >>>>> not to bother him every month. We're wondering if Kevin and/or I can get >>>>> posting/content management privileges to the Iceberg YouTube channel for >>>>> these meetup recordings. >>>>> >>>>> We asked Bits and he replied: >>>>> It would be good to have some trusted people + PMC coordinate the >>>>> social + marketing channels. In many projects I either see nobody really >>>>> owning it and it becomes abandoned over time and other times I see it >>>>> primarily run through one or two companies or individuals which doesn't >>>>> scale. It would be great if a small group of trusted volunteers comanage >>>>> these marketing channels with similar guidelines on how to coordinate >>>>> when, >>>>> channel "voice", and following standard ASF COC guidelines, etc... >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps Bits and/or a PMC member could take on the responsibility of >>>>> building out the guidance on how to run this without too much overlap or >>>>> interference as it scales out. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> Jonathan Leang >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ryan Blue >>> Databricks >>> >>
