Hi Anton, I definitely agree it is a blocker.
Sincerely, Dmitriy Pavlov вт, 2 окт. 2018 г. в 13:09, Anton Kalashnikov <kaa....@yandex.ru>: > Hi Igniters. > > I have one more possible blockers - deadlock in archiver - > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-9761. I almost fixed it. > It seems it should be include to scope. > > -- > Best regards, > Anton Kalashnikov > > > 02.10.2018, 00:08, "Dmitriy Setrakyan" <dsetrak...@apache.org>: > > Thanks, got it. > > > > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 1:14 PM Dmitriy Pavlov <dpavlov....@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> Here I agree with Vladimir. Furthermore, I do my absolute best to > finalize > >> all reviews in all 2.7 tickets I'm related to. I think most of the > >> contributors doing the same. > >> > >> пн, 1 окт. 2018 г. в 23:03, Vladimir Ozerov <voze...@gridgain.com>: > >> > >> > This is precisely the scope we have at the moment. All these tickets > were > >> > considered carefully on whether to include them into AI 2.7 scope. I > >> would > >> > say that 10-15% of current tickets may be moved furhter. > >> > > >> > Third of current tickets are features on their final review stages > (e.g. > >> > TDE, MVCC invoke, TensorFlow, Thin Clients), another big part is > >> > stabilization tickets (mainly - various test failures), and another > big > >> > part is infrastructure (adopting new modules, Java 9+ support, > etc.). So > >> > despite big absolute number, most of these tickets are grouped around > >> > several big areas, and overall progress over this week should be very > >> good. > >> > > >> > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 9:50 PM Dmitriy Setrakyan < > dsetrak...@apache.org> > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > > If this filter is for 2.7 release, then I do not believe all these > >> > tickets > >> > > will be closed. It would be nice to leave only "must-have" tickets > in > >> 2.7 > >> > > and move the rest to 2.8. > >> > > > >> > > D. > >> > > > >> > > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 11:02 AM Vladimir Ozerov < > voze...@gridgain.com> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > Igniters, > >> > > > > >> > > > Please use this filter, as it properly handles tickets without > >> > > components: > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=(project%20%3D%20%27Ignite%27%20AND%20fixVersion%20is%20not%20empty%20AND%20fixVersion%20in%20(%272.7%27)%20AND%20status%20NOT%20IN%20(Resolved%2C%20Closed)%20and%20(component%20is%20null%20or%20component%20not%20in%20(documentation)))%20ORDER%20BY%20priority%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20 > >> > > > > >> > > > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 6:18 PM Nikolay Izhikov < > nizhi...@apache.org> > >> > > > wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > Hello, Igniters. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > I announce scope freeze for an Apache Ignite 2.7 release. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > It means: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > 1. We add to 2.7 only critical bugs. > >> > > > > 2. We merge to 2.7 branch only previously announces features. > >> > > > > 3. I expect we should exclude or *MERGE ALL TASKS FOR 2.7 DUE > TO > >> > > OCTOBER > >> > > > > 10*. > >> > > > > So the *October 10 is DEADLINE* for new features. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Thoughts? > >> > > > > > >> > > > > For now we have 34 In Progress tickets planned to 2.7 version > [1]. > >> > > > > So is you assigned to any of this ticker friendly reminder #1, > *the > >> > > > > deadline is near :)*. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > [1] > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-8803?jql=(project%20%3D%20%27Ignite%27%20AND%20fixVersion%20is%20not%20empty%20AND%20fixVersion%20in%20(%272.7%27)%20AND%20status%20NOT%20IN%20(Resolved%2C%20Closed)%20and%20component%20!%3D%20documentation%20)%20ORDER%20BY%20priority%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20 > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > В Пн, 01/10/2018 в 16:13 +0300, Andrey Gura пишет: > >> > > > > > Agree with Andrey. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > IGNITE-9723 will be merged to ignite-2.7 branch soon. > >> > > > > > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 3:56 PM Andrey Kuznetsov < > >> stku...@gmail.com > >> > > > >> > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Igniters, > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > There is an inaccuracy in critical worker termination > >> detection, > >> > > and > >> > > > > I'm > >> > > > > > > working on a fix right now, see [1]. Also, we have trivial > yet > >> > > > > important > >> > > > > > > fix [2], this one is ready to merge. > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > I deem both should get to 2.7. Any objections? > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-9744 > >> > > > > > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-9723 > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > пн, 1 окт. 2018 г. в 13:13, Dmitriy Pavlov < > >> > dpavlov....@gmail.com > >> > > >: > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Folks, > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > We can consider this thread as an almost healthy > discussion > >> > about > >> > > > SG > >> > > > > > > > inclusion to 2.7. > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > For the future, I encourage all Igniters to discuss > things > >> > before > >> > > > > agreement > >> > > > > > > > on dev.list instead of trying to log 'some pre-build > >> > agreements' > >> > > > > here. BTW > >> > > > > > > > such logged 'agreements' are not always valid. > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dev list is not a log of community actions; it is the > >> principal > >> > > > > place where > >> > > > > > > > discussion runs. I sincerely hope all similar decisions > will > >> be > >> > > > > building on > >> > > > > > > > the dev list. > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Sincerely, > >> > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > вс, 30 сент. 2018 г. в 10:49, Nikolay Izhikov < > >> > > nizhi...@apache.org > >> > > > >: > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Hello, guys. > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I moved SG tasks to 2.8. > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > В Сб, 29/09/2018 в 17:11 +0300, Vladimir Ozerov пишет: > >> > > > > > > > > > I fully support Dmitry's concerns. I do not see a > single > >> > > chance > >> > > > > for > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Service > >> > > > > > > > > > Grid to be included into 2.7 scope, but we are still > >> > keeping > >> > > > hope > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > alive. > >> > > > > > > > > > What for? Our experience shows, that any feature > >> involving > >> > > > > consensus > >> > > > > > > > > > algorithms typically take weeks to be finalized after > >> > initial > >> > > > > public > >> > > > > > > > > > review. Yes, it is possible that at some day in > October > >> we > >> > > will > >> > > > > see it > >> > > > > > > > > > completed, but what about testing? What about > regressions > >> > > with > >> > > > > other > >> > > > > > > > > > components? Let me reming you that from Monday a lot > of > >> > > efforts > >> > > > > will be > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > put > >> > > > > > > > > > into project stabilization. This is the sole purpose > of > >> > that > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > pre-release > >> > > > > > > > > > phase. Accepting a patch with deep rework of Ignite > >> > internals > >> > > > in > >> > > > > the > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > middle > >> > > > > > > > > > of that process, means that our effrots will be lost. > >> This > >> > is > >> > > > > simply a > >> > > > > > > > > > matter of respect to contributor's time. > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Another problem is that this false hope puts us at > rush. > >> > Rush > >> > > > > during > >> > > > > > > > > > design, development, review, testing. Result is > known - > >> bad > >> > > > > features, > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > which > >> > > > > > > > > > makes damage to the project. > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > So my question is - why don't we just want to move > it to > >> AI > >> > > 2.8 > >> > > > > right > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > now? > >> > > > > > > > > > Feature is big, feature is very far from being ready. > >> This > >> > > > simple > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > action > >> > > > > > > > > > immediately shifts the focus from dates to quality > of the > >> > > > > product, and > >> > > > > > > > > > remove any risks that potential merge will defeat > >> > > stabilization > >> > > > > effrots > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > of > >> > > > > > > > > > other contributors. > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 8:32 AM Vyacheslav Daradur < > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > daradu...@gmail.com> > >> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Hot redeployment and versioning will not be > implemented > >> > in > >> > > > > phase 1, > >> > > > > > > > > > > but it is scheduled once it is finished. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Here is an umbrella ticket [1] to track phase 1 > scope. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > It includes very few new features, but we > completely > >> > rework > >> > > > > component > >> > > > > > > > > > > to improve guarantees to be more reliable and we > build > >> > the > >> > > > > base for > >> > > > > > > > > > > new features. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > [1] > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-9607 > >> > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 9:38 PM Dmitriy Setrakyan < > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > dsetrak...@apache.org> > >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure I can agree. SG redesign includes: > >> > > > > > > > > > > > - hot redeployment > >> > > > > > > > > > > > - versioning > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > In my experience, features like these take about > 1 > >> > month > >> > > to > >> > > > > test > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > properly > >> > > > > > > > > > > > and fix all the bugs, including redeployment > tests > >> and > >> > > > > restart > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > tests > >> > > > > > > > > on > >> > > > > > > > > > > > larger topologies, together with overnight runs. > If > >> > this > >> > > > > type of > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > testing > >> > > > > > > > > > > > has not been performed, I think it would be > >> > unreasonable > >> > > to > >> > > > > expect > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > this > >> > > > > > > > > > > > feature making it into the release. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Can someone comment on the testing? > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > D. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 10:38 AM Dmitriy Pavlov < > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikolay, because I think you're a do'er, but > not a > >> > > > > commenter, > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > like > >> > > > > > > > > me, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > for > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > example, I can trust your opinion. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I will join review if I have spare cycles. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 20:34, Denis Magda < > >> > > > > dma...@apache.org>: > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nikolay, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for stepping in and giving more > context. > >> In > >> > > > > general, I'm > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > fully for > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > your proposal below: > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > My vote goes to option *a*. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we should release 2.7 with the > bunch of > >> > new > >> > > > > cool > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > features. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *AND* we should plan 2.8 release at the > end of > >> > the > >> > > > > year with > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > SG > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > redesign > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and MVCC stabilization tasks. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Denis > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 10:30 AM Nikolay > Izhikov > >> < > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > nizhi...@apache.org> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, Igniters. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we shouldn't put so many emotions > in > >> > > > > discussion of > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > any > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > contribution. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even so big and important as SG redesign. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The crucial point we all agreed about: > Service > >> > Grid > >> > > > > redesign > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > a > >> > > > > > > > > big > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > feature > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that can significally improve Ignite. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We all want to have it in the product. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me write my vision of the current task > >> state: > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Design of SG is discussed *and aligned* > >> both: > >> > > > > privately > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > with > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Ignite > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experts(Vladimir Ozerov, Alexey Goncharyuk, > >> Anton > >> > > > > Vinogradov, > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Denis > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mekhanikov) > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and publicly on dev-list. This task is > done. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Current PR state - *on my review*. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I spend some time with this contribution > and > >> gave > >> > > > > Vyacheslav > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > a > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > feedback. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I expect he can fix my comments in a day or > >> two. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seem we can ask of Anton Vinogradov review > on > >> the > >> > > > > beginning > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > of > >> > > > > > > > > next > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > week. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If Dmitriy or any community member wants to > >> help > >> > > *by > >> > > > > doing > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > things, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > not > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussing them on dev-list*. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please, join to the review - you are > welcome. > >> PR > >> > is > >> > > > > here [1] > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. I think, we have two mutually exclusive > >> > options > >> > > > > regarding > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > of > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > release > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.7 > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a. We release 2.7 in planned dates. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > b. We include SG in release scope. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My vote goes to option *a*. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we should release 2.7 with the > bunch of > >> > new > >> > > > > cool > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > features. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *AND* we should plan 2.8 release at the > end of > >> > the > >> > > > > year with > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > SG > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > redesign > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and MVCC stabilization tasks. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, while we preparing release a lot of > >> > things > >> > > > can > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > happen. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's come back to discussion of SG release > >> > version > >> > > > > *when it > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > will > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > be > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ready > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to be merged to master*. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guys, does it makes sense for you? > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > https://github.com/apache/ignite/pull/4434 > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > В Пт, 28/09/2018 в 19:47 +0300, Dmitriy > Pavlov > >> > > пишет: > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Dmitriy, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The design is aligned totally. The > thread you > >> > > > > mention was > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > not > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > named > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > properly. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems to me some community members are > >> > trying > >> > > to > >> > > > > take > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > over the > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > community > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and lead it instead of doing. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As a member of the Apache community, I > value > >> > > > > Do-ocracy and > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > power > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > of > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > those > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who do, but not just disagree. There are > no > >> > > leaders > >> > > > > in open > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > source, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > just > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do'ers. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By do'ers here I mean Nikolay and > Vyacheslav. > >> > For > >> > > > > me, their > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > conclusion > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > more weight here. If Vladimir is ready to > >> lead > >> > an > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > additional > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > release > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SG > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and SG developers agree, it works for me. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 19:39, Dmitriy > >> > Setrakyan < > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > dsetrak...@apache.org > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We agreed in the beginning of this > thread > >> > that > >> > > > > Service > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Grid > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > changes > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are not > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > going to make the release because the > >> > community > >> > > > > still did > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > not > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > approve > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > design. Nothing has changed since. I > have > >> not > >> > > > seen > >> > > > > any > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > design > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussions. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At this point, I have no confidence > that > >> the > >> > > > > Service Grid > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > changes > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > will > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > make > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it into the 2.8 release. The 2.7 > release > >> > seems > >> > > > out > >> > > > > of > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > question > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > altogether. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, Nikolay is a release manager. We > >> should > >> > > let > >> > > > > him > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > drive the > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release. To > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my knowledge, he is doing a great job > and > >> the > >> > > > > release is > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > going > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > according to > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the schedule he proposed. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > D. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 4:31 AM Dmitriy > >> > Pavlov > >> > > < > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Dmitriy, Vladimir, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suggest we stop this nonsense with > >> > release > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > dates-pushing > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > because > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open question. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just because you disagreed with any > >> > > > > include/exclude > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > something > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > into > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scope, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does not mean that whole community > >> > disagreed. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If folks will start a separate > discussion > >> > > with > >> > > > > results > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > of the > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > review, I > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > see > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no reasons to reject their > contribution, > >> > even > >> > > > if > >> > > > > we > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > need > >> > > > > > > > > to > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > revisit > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > agreements and wait for a couple of > days > >> > > more. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am I missing some reason why dates > are so > >> > > > > fundamentally > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > important > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you? > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy Pavlov > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 12:20, Dmitriy > >> > > > Setrakyan < > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dsetrak...@apache.org>: > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If services is not ready, which it > is > >> > not, > >> > > > > then we > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > should > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > include > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > them > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > into > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the next release. There is no need > to > >> > force > >> > > > > them into > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 2.7. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suggest we > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > move according to the schedule we > all > >> > > agreed > >> > > > > on. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > D. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 1:22 AM > Dmitriy > >> > > > Pavlov > >> > > > > < > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, so correct statement is > >> "community > >> > > did > >> > > > > not > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > make > >> > > > > > > > > any > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > decisions > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > services not go to 2.7/ services > are > >> > out > >> > > of > >> > > > > scope". > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If so, please forgive me my > >> confusion. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 11:19, > >> Vladimir > >> > > > > Ozerov < > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voze...@gridgain.com > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exactly. So correct statement > is > >> “it > >> > is > >> > > > up > >> > > > > to > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > *community* > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > to > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > decide > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whether > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > something goes to 2.7”. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 11:11, > >> Dmitriy > >> > > > > Pavlov < > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, it is up to the > community to > >> > > > discuss > >> > > > > after > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > their > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > review > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > results. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в 11:09, > >> > > Vladimir > >> > > > > Ozerov < > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voze...@gridgain.com > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitriy, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did I read your words > correctly > >> > > that > >> > > > > it is up > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > to > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > implementor > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of a > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > single > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > feature to decide whether > >> release > >> > > of > >> > > > > all > >> > > > > > > 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> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So it is up to > Vyacheslav, > >> > Anton > >> > > > and > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Nikolay > >> > > > > > > > > to > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > decide. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Decisions can be > services are > >> > not > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ready/ready to > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > merge > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > master/ready > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to merge to master and to > >> 2.7. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > пт, 28 сент. 2018 г. в > 10:46, > >> > > > > Vladimir > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Ozerov < > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > voze...@gridgain.com > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > : > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dmitry, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Community agreement > was to > >> > > > perform > >> > > > > the > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > release > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > in > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > October. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > course > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wait a bit for > services. > >> Then > >> > > we > >> > > > > wait a > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > bit for > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > other > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cool > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > features > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ready > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by that time, then > again > >> and > >> > > > > again, and > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > release > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > will > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > never > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > happen. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > while we are waiting > for > >> new > >> > > > > features to > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > come, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > already > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > completerd > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > features > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cannot be used by > anyone. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is why we have an > >> > > agreement > >> > > > > that if > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > feature is > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ready, > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moved to future > release, > >> > > instead > >> > > > of > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > shifting > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > release. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sole > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reason > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have strict dates when > >> > > decisions > >> > > > > are made > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > is > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > to let > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > release > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > happen. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at > >> 2:22 > >> > AM > >> > > > > Dmitriy > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Pavlov > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > < > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dpavlov....@gmail.com> > >> > > > > > > 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