Thanks for this, Rob. Do you mind if I cross-post to the thread on Slack ... ?
On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 at 17:08, - - <rmatth...@nakedobjects.org> wrote: > Hi All > > When we donated the Naked Objects project to Apache, all those years ago, > we had to change its name. This was because a commercial version (ported to > .NET) was the focus of the business and it used that original name. That > name described the framework so well, even if it raised a few eyebrows. > > Dan and I discussed new names at length, looking for something > descriptive, pithy and memorable. Given what we were changing it from, the > task was rather hard. What we settled on gave us something unique and > terse, using something that was common to us three--we all lived in towns > next to this river (more commonly known as the Thames)--and it also had > that goddess connection. > > After a while that choice started to look poor. Unfortunately associations > matter and I have no doubt there has been an effect to this. A local > friend, who invests in businesses in the area, commented to me that many > companies in the area (particularly Oxford) have had to change their > company names over the recent years. > > To me, this is reminiscent of an old VW Golf advert, where a guy is > wandering back from the casino and the voice over explains that he had put > everything on black and it had come up red. He then gets into his Golf and > the implication is that he still has the most important thing. We started > with a great framework and picked the wrong name. Yet we still have the > important part. > > To me Causeway sound intentional, it'll take you somewhere. This gets my > vote. The others are fine, but I would put the simpler one first, so: 1) > Causeway; 2) Alma; 3) Kokoro. > > Hey, but don't listen to me. Look what happened last time! > > Best regards > > Robert > > > On 24/05/2022 09:46 Dan Haywood <d...@haywood-associates.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > Hi folks, > > > > We've talked a lot about changing the name of the framework, see for > > example ISIS-1303 [1]. So this thread, is, finally, to start the process > > > > There have been an awful lot of suggestions; talking informally/offline > > with the other committers, we think there are a few front-runners. So the > > vote below lists these, but if none appeal then you can vote for > something > > else. > > > > So, please cast vote your vote for one of the following: > > > > 1. change the framework's name to Apache *Alma* > > 2. change the framework's name to Apache *Causeway* > > 3. change the framework's name to Apache *Kokoro* > > 4 *don't change *the framework's name > > 5. do change the framework's name, but I don't like any of them, give me > > some *other choices*! > > > > Background on the first three choices: > > > > *Alma* - technically speaking, is a piece of wood (a little round pole) > > within a stringed instrument such as a violin [2], connecting the > > soundboards etc. What it means though "heart" or "soul" -think "alma > > mater", so the metaphor is that we are connecting business with > technology, > > or acting as the heart of the business. > > > > *Causeway* - taken from the Giant's Causeway in Northern Ireland, a > > geological feature characterised by hexagonal basalt columns [3]. The > > metaphor here is again "causeway" meaning bridge, but the hexagons also > are > > reminiscent of the hexagonal architecture common to DDD. > > > > *Kokoro* - is a Japanese word meaning something connecting heart, mind, > > body and spirit [4]. It has been trendy in the past to use Japanese > words. > > > > In case anyone wants a reminder, our current name *Isis* comes from the > > name of the River Thames as it wanders through Oxford (the original > > authors of the framework all used to live in Oxfordshire). Isis of course > > was an Egyptian goddess [5]. > > > > For voting, hopefully there will be a clear winner, but it might make > sense > > to rank your preferences. If there are no clear winners then, well, we'll > > go round the loop - we don't want to force through a change that no-one > is > > happy with. > > > > Normally votes are at least 72 hours, but we intend to keep this one open > > longer than that, at least we've had a few contributions to the thread. > > Only committers to the framework have a formal vote, but it'd be good to > > hear the views of as many users of the framework as we can. > > > > Thanks > > Dan (co-drafted with Johan). > > > > > > > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-1303 > > [2] > > > https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-odn0l-W5zow/Wmim3CiDJNI/AAAAAAAAG8c/ZiJPbHSbhHUEumzpxw1ZYNmIfb8IXnBjQCLcBGAs/s1600/20120919201309.jpg > > [3] > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant%27s_Causeway#/media/File:Causeway-code_poet-4.jpg > > [4] > > > https://qz.com/946438/kokoro-a-japanese-word-connecting-mind-body-and-spirit-is-also-driving-scientific-discovery/ > > [5] > > > https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis#:~:text=Isis%20is%20a%20goddess%20in,greatest%20goddesses%20of%20Ancient%20Egypt > > . >
