I would like to stick with the setup we currently have, meaning: * stick with one wiki, no additional wikis, not for docu, and sure not for a sandbox * I am also fine with the "level of freedom" we currently have on the wiki, as JP says, the spam is almost nothing, I dont have more then 5 minutes a week doing gardening. * can't comment on the licensing issues.
People should be able to have their own pages, as long as it is not just for testing ( I deleted a few of those last year). I dont understand what is meant with the "heavy commits" Kind regards, Harry Op 21 aug. 2014 18:39 schreef "Glen Mazza" <[email protected]>: > We really don't need to be discussing marketing with Juergen, as he's not > yet on the team. As for his comment: "As for playing with the Wiki, there > should be a Sandbox page, which would be world writeable and which should > be deleted by a batch job every hour or so", he's just being generous with > other people's time and responsibilities (nobody, after all, is stopping > him from running his own public JSPWiki sandbox.) The team decides whether > we want a Sandbox, and we've already determined earlier we don't want to > manage it and deal with the responsibilities and headaches of people > uploading illegal or privacy-infringing content, that there is better use > of our limited time on the project, and that people can view our own Wiki > instance as well as test JSPWiki locally to confirm if they want it. > > Whether or not we have a sandbox or personal pages is an opportunity cost, > marketing and legal matter that is not a concern of users, they don't need > to get into that. Whether or not JSPWiki works, and how it works is one > thing for users to comment on, but marketing is not a user concern. > > Nonetheless I thank Juergen for noting the heavy commits recently > (although from the link below I'm not sure what is the spam that he's > talking about, it looks like normal commits), as it allowed me to notice > someone attaching non-Apache licensed material (a Dilbert cartoon). > > Glen > > > On 08/21/2014 11:43 AM, Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez wrote: > >> [Switching to dev, so everyone can hop in] >> >> As for now, we show an advice on the footer, stating that the content is >> AL; maybe we should reword that so it's made clearer, as it's seen on >> every >> page. If don't state that the content is AL there, I could upload my own >> plugin without knowing or linking the ContributedPlugins page and I could >> argue that the copyright notice wasn't visible. >> >> Regarding personal pages, right now, I'd leave them, as the >> signal-to-noise >> ratio is still high, and those pages link, or contain valuable >> info/contributed plugins. If it worsens I'd be would be in favour of being >> stricter granting rw access, but for now it seems to me ok, as a large % >> of >> those personal/sandbox pages are ending up in being proper contributions. >> In any case, I'm eager to hear what others think about this, and won't >> mind >> to change my opinion if enough people think we should be stricter / would >> be nice to have a sandbox wiki / etc. >> >> >> br, >> juan pablo >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Jürgen Weber <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Juan Pablo, >>> >>> actually I think personal pages at an apache.org site is not a good >>> idea. >>> We should ask Glen about this. Especially reading what he wrote here: >>> https://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org/Diff.jsp?page= >>> ContributedPlugins&r1=13&r2=12 >>> >>> One could even be more strict with added content and require that it go >>> via a JIRA attachment.. >>> >>> As for playing with the Wiki, there should be a Sandbox page, which would >>> be world writeable and which should be deleted by a batch job every hour >>> or >>> so. >>> >>> But we should discuss this, either via a Jira or on dev. >>> >>> Greetings, Jürgen >>> Am 19.08.2014 17:27 schrieb "Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez" < >>> [email protected]>: >>> >>> Hi Jürgen, >>> >>>> thanks for looking into this! I've checked to see what type of content >>>> is >>>> being posted, but they seem to me as personal/sandbox pages, created >>>> from >>>> different IPs, which was somewhat usual/normal when hosted at >>>> www.jspwiki.org. Do you think the wiki should stick to documentation >>>> (or >>>> perhaps we should use another wiki instance to host this kind of >>>> pages)? As >>>> it was difficult to get the VM and wiki running, we sticked to one >>>> instance, but we could set up for another redirection if needed >>>> (however, I >>>> feel that this kind of decision should be made at dev@) >>>> >>>> For now, let's wait to see how they evolve, or if new spam-suspicious >>>> pages are created. If they come to be spam, we could follow the same >>>> policy >>>> followed by the infra guys, that is, grant access to anyone who asks on >>>> [email protected], for instance, or whatever we decide at dev@.. >>>> >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>> juan pablo >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Jürgen Weber <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Juan Pablo, >>>>> >>>>> looks like the jspwiki-wiki.apache.org is beeing spammed: >>>>> https://jspwiki-wiki.apache.org/Wiki.jsp?page=RecentChanges >>>>> >>>>> I guess new users should be closed, which is a pity. >>>>> >>>>> How could one restrict the valid users? Only ones, that have written >>>>> something serious on the mailing list? Only G+ accounts? Only apache >>>>> accounts? >>>>> >>>>> Greetings, Juergen >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >
