Hi David,

>From @Jusine
> I was able to run the tests I wanted and I found when I use the upgrade
--release version flag, we are still saying we are upgrading kraft.version
to 1 even though we do not. I don't think this is necessarily a blocker,
but wanted to call it out.

I've opened KAFKA-18992 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18992>
to track it. And +1 for not a blocker.

I've done:

- Browsed the javadoc and protocol and documentation
- Ran the quickstart
- Verified that KIP-853 feature
- Verified tiered storage feature

I also opened KAFKA-18993
<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18993> to improve the
document, but again, not a blocker.

+1 (binding)

Thanks for running the release!
Luke

On Sat, Mar 15, 2025 at 12:21 PM TengYao Chi <kiting...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> I have done the following tests:
>
> - Built from 4.0.0-rc4 with JDK21-zulu/JDK21-amzn and ran all unit and
> integration tests in a container
>     - a few tests failed at the first attempt, but failed tests passed
> after retried
> - Ran all system tests
>     - The network_degrade_test and replica_verification_test failed, but
> given the conclusion from the RC3 mail thread, I think this is acceptable.
> - Ran the KRaft quickstart using kafka_2.13-4.0.0.tgz
> - Built JVM and native images with rc4 archive and tested JVM and native
> containers by following the Multiple Nodes example from Docker Hub
> - Test dynamic quorum using kafka_2.13-4.0.0.tgz and kafka_2.13-3.9.0.tgz
> with the following matrix:
>     - 4.0 controller / 4.0 broker
>     - 4.0 controller as leader / 4.0 controller and 3.9 controller as voter
> / 4.0 broker and 3.9 broker as follower
>     - 3.9 controller as leader / 4.0 controller and 3.9 controller as voter
> / 4.0 broker and 3.9 broker as follower
>     - also create some topics
>
>
> +1 (non-binding)
>
> Best Regards,
> TengYao
>
> Justine Olshan <jols...@confluent.io.invalid> 於 2025年3月15日 週六 上午2:38寫道:
>
> > Hello again folks,
> >
> > I chatted with Jose offline about this issue and he explained we need to
> > remove the --standalone flag to get kraft.version=0. I filed a ticket for
> > this here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-18987
> >
> > I was able to run the tests I wanted and I found when I use the upgrade
> > --release version flag, we are still saying we are upgrading
> kraft.version
> > to 1 even though we do not. I don't think this is necessarily a blocker,
> > but wanted to call it out.
> >
> > bin/kafka-features.sh --bootstrap-server localhost:9092 upgrade
> > --release-version 4.0 group.version was upgraded to 1. kraft.version was
> > upgraded to 1. metadata.version was upgraded to 25. transaction.version
> was
> > upgraded to 2. bin/kafka-features.sh --bootstrap-server localhost:9092
> > describe Feature: eligible.leader.replicas.version SupportedMinVersion: 0
> > SupportedMaxVersion: 1 FinalizedVersionLevel: 0 Epoch: 189 Feature:
> > group.version SupportedMinVersion: 0 SupportedMaxVersion: 1
> > FinalizedVersionLevel: 1 Epoch: 189 Feature: kraft.version
> > SupportedMinVersion: 0 SupportedMaxVersion: 1 FinalizedVersionLevel: 0
> > Epoch: 189 Feature: metadata.version SupportedMinVersion: 3.3-IV3
> > SupportedMaxVersion: 4.0-IV3 FinalizedVersionLevel: 4.0-IV3 Epoch: 189
> > Feature: transaction.version SupportedMinVersion: 0 SupportedMaxVersion:
> 2
> > FinalizedVersionLevel: 2 Epoch: 189 I ran the remaining validations I had
> > (running transactions bench, verifying expected behavior). In addition, I
> > also verified the signatures, browsed the docs, looked at the tests and
> > release artifacts. +1 (binding) from me with a strong recommendation to
> > update some of the docs around KIP-853. Thanks,
> > Justine
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 9:46 AM Justine Olshan <jols...@confluent.io>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi David,
> > >
> > > Thanks for this next release candidate.
> > >
> > > Maybe I'm missing something, but I was trying to test out some of the
> > > changes that Jose provided, by configuring a static quorum
> > > (kraft.version=0) and I seem to be unable to do so.
> > > I set controller.quorum.voters=1@localhost:9093 as per how it looked
> in
> > > 3.9 (with no controller.quorum.bootstrap.servers, but no matter what I
> do
> > > it says "Cannot set kraft.version to 0 if KIP-853 configuration is
> > > present. Try removing the --feature flag for kraft.version."
> > >
> > > Can someone help me out here? The documentation says:
> > > > The static versus dynamic nature of the quorum is determined at the
> > > time of formatting. Specifically, the quorum will be formatted as
> dynamic
> > > if controller.quorum.voters is *not* present, and if the software
> version
> > > is Apache Kafka 3.9 or newer. If you have followed the instructions
> > earlier
> > > in this document, you will get a dynamic quorum.
> > >
> > > But this seems incorrect. I'm hoping I'm just misunderstanding the
> > > documentation and not that there is another issue.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Justine
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 9:22 AM Bill Bejeck <bbej...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi David,
> > >>
> > >> I verified the latest RC with the following steps:
> > >>
> > >>    - Verified the signatures
> > >>    - Built from source
> > >>    - Ran the unit tests (same single failure from before, but
> otherwise
> > >> all
> > >>    good)
> > >>    - Executed the quickstart against the built source code.
> > >>    - Ran the streams quickstart.
> > >>    - Tested the apache/kafka and apache/kafka-native docker images
> with
> > >> the
> > >>    quickstart
> > >>    - Spot checked the javadoc and documentation.
> > >>
> > >> +1(binding)
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Bill
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 10:36 AM Lianet M. <liane...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Hi David, I verified the new RC with the following steps:
> > >> >
> > >> > - Checked system tests run: there were 2 new failures in connect
> that
> > we
> > >> > didn't have in the previous RC (test_broker_compatibility and
> > >> > test_pause_state_persistent). I ran them locally and they both pass
> > (so
> > >> > based on this and the error msg seems like just flakiness)
> > >> > - Build from src with java 17, followed the quickstart and played
> with
> > >> > consume/produce & topic management with the command line tools
> > >> > - Run client examples from the examples module (java 17)
> > >> > - Tested consuming in groups with both classic and new consumer
> > protocol
> > >> > - Tested the consumer group online migration & the command line new
> > >> tools
> > >> > to visualize/track the live migration
> > >> > - Build clients with java 11 , run unit and integration tests.
> > >> > - Run client examples from the examples module (java 11)
> > >> >
> > >> > +1 (non-binding)
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks!
> > >> > Lianet
> > >> >
> > >> > On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 9:28 AM David Arthur <mum...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > David, thanks for running this behemoth of a release.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > With the help of my coworker Mahsa Seifikar, we have verified the
> > >> > following
> > >> > > upgrade scenario:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > * Provision a ZK based Kafka cluster on 3.5 and create some topics
> > >> > > * Upgrade to 3.9
> > >> > > * Migrate to KRaft
> > >> > > * Upgrade to 4.0
> > >> > >
> > >> > > We found a few docs issues which have since been fixed. One minor
> > 3.9
> > >> > docs
> > >> > > issue is still pending, but that's not a blocker.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I also ran through the quickstart.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > +1 binding
> > >> > >
> > >> > > -David A
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 7:57 AM Federico Valeri <
> > fedeval...@gmail.com
> > >> >
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Hi David, I've tested the RC4 and this is what I've done:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > - Used the binaries to create a cluster and run clients from
> > >> exampled
> > >> > > > module
> > >> > > > - Tested the upgrade issue we found in KAFKA-18979
> > >> > > > - Tested the dynamic quorum feature (both scale up and down)
> > >> > > > - Tested group.protocol=consumer with a simple Java app
> > >> > > > - Browsed the documentation and javadoc
> > >> > > > - Tested the Docker images
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > +1 non binding
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Thanks for running the release.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Cheers
> > >> > > > Fede
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Fri, Mar 14, 2025 at 11:11 AM David Jacot <da...@apache.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Hello Kafka users, developers and client-developers,
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > This is the fourth candidate for release of Apache Kafka
> 4.0.0.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > - This is the first release without Apache Zookeeper
> > >> > > > > - The Next Generation of the Consumer Rebalance Protocol is
> > >> Generally
> > >> > > > Available
> > >> > > > > - The Transactions Server-Side Defense (Phase 2) is Generally
> > >> > Available
> > >> > > > > - Queues for Kafka is in Early Access
> > >> > > > > - Kafka uses log4j2
> > >> > > > > - Drop broker and tools support for Java 11
> > >> > > > > - Remove old client protocol API versions
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Release notes for the 4.0.0 release:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/kafka/4.0.0-rc4/RELEASE_NOTES.html
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > *** Please download, test and vote by Monday, March 17, 9am
> PT.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Kafka's KEYS file containing PGP keys we use to sign the
> > release:
> > >> > > > > https://kafka.apache.org/KEYS
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > * Release artifacts to be voted upon (source and binary):
> > >> > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/kafka/4.0.0-rc4/
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > * Docker release artifacts to be voted upon:
> > >> > > > > apache/kafka:4.0.0-rc4
> > >> > > > > apache/kafka-native:4.0.0-rc4
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > * Maven artifacts to be voted upon:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> >
> > https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/staging/org/apache/kafka/
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > * Javadoc:
> > >> > > > >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/kafka/4.0.0-rc4/javadoc/
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > * Tag to be voted upon (off 4.0 branch) is the 4.0.0 tag:
> > >> > > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/releases/tag/4.0.0-rc4
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > * Documentation:
> > >> > > > > https://kafka.apache.org/40/documentation.html
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > * Protocol:
> > >> > > > > https://kafka.apache.org/40/protocol.html
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > * Successful CI builds for the 4.0 branch:
> > >> > > > > Unit/integration tests:
> > >> > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/actions/runs/13846870683
> > >> > > > > System tests:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> https://confluent-open-source-kafka-branch-builder-system-test-results.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/trunk/2025-03-13--001.6a14e68a-4791-44eb-a6be-24ce25bc1678--1741882266--apache--4.0--8f765a1886/report.html
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > * Successful Docker Image Github Actions Pipeline for 4.0
> > branch:
> > >> > > > > Docker Build Test Pipeline (JVM):
> > >> > > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/actions/runs/13852844456
> > >> > > > > Docker Build Test Pipeline (Native):
> > >> > > > > https://github.com/apache/kafka/actions/runs/13853116713
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > /**************************************
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Thanks,
> > >> > > > > David Jacot
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --
> > >> > > David Arthur
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> >
>

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