To be clear, that's not the only issue. There is no way to make a
compatible change in signature like the one proposed by 5.0. Two major
releases would be required. And we also need a non deprecated method to be
used in the meantime.

Ismael

On Mon, Mar 17, 2025, 12:41 AM Chia-Ping Tsai <chia7...@gmail.com> wrote:

> hi PoAn,
>
> chia_q0:
> To prevent potential misinterpretations, could you please explicitly list
> the features that will be deprecated and added in Kafka 4.x, and those that
> will be removed in Kafka 5.x? Without this clarification, readers might
> mistakenly assume that breaking changes are planned for Kafka 4.x.
>
> chia_q1:
> Furthermore, regarding the Endpoint.listenerName() method, our previous
> discussion [0] indicated that it returns an Optional value because it was
> intended for use by other public APIs. However, it appears that we have not
> fully utilized this approach. For instance, RaftVoterEndpoint [1] was
> created as a separate class to represent the endpoint for voters, rather
> than reusing the Endpoint class. I believe this discrepancy should be
> included in the KIP as a key motivation for the proposed changes.
>
> [0] https://lists.apache.org/thread/v6s7wnmzbprs26dyd7gom0g55k0ww1o2
> [1]
>
> https://github.com/apache/kafka/blob/trunk/clients/src/main/java/org/apache/kafka/clients/admin/RaftVoterEndpoint.java
>
> Best,
> Chia-Ping
>
>
>
> Ismael Juma <m...@ismaeljuma.com> 於 2025年3月17日 週一 上午4:48寫道:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > We cannot make incompatible changes to public classes outside of major
> > releases. The evolving annotation was left by mistake given that these
> > classes have been there for a long time by now.
> >
> > The general way to handle this is to have a new non deprecated method,
> > deprecate the old one. And then remove the deprecated one in 5.0.
> >
> > Ismael
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 16, 2025, 5:53 AM PoAn Yang <yangp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I would like to start a discussion thread on KIP-1143.
> > >
> > > This KIP removes redundant org.apache.kafka.network.EndPoint and
> replaces
> > > it with org.apache.kafka.common.Endpoint. Also, it changes output of
> > > Endpoint#listenerName from Optional<String> to String.
> > >
> > > Please take a look and feel free to share any thoughts.
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=345377327
> > >
> > > Sample PR: https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/19191
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > PoAn
> >
>

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