On Mar 12, 2013, at 8:28 PM, Andrei Pozolotin <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> Jamie:
> 
> cant you make a case that RC is not really a release?

If it is "distributed" via the mirror system and Maven central and stuff, it's 
a release and would need a vote.

For anything else, we have (or should have) nightly SNAPSHOT builds that people 
can grab.

Dan



> 
> Andrei
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: release by subsystem
> From: Jamie G. <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]>
> Date: Tue 12 Mar 2013 07:24:53 PM CDT
>> Sorry for jumping in here,
>> 
>> Apache builds require approval before release:
>> http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#approving-a-release
>> 
>> As to release schedule, that's purely at the discretion of the
>> community to my best understanding.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Jamie
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Andrei Pozolotin
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Guillaume:
>>> 
>>> how about automatic, once a month, karaf RC-XXX release, w/o vote?
>>> 
>>> Andrei.
>>> 
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: Re: release by subsystem
>>> From: Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Tue 12 Mar 2013 06:24:24 PM CDT
>>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Andrei Pozolotin <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>    *Jean-Baptiste, Łukasz**
>>>>>    *
>>>>>    FYI:
>>>>> 
>>>>>    1) I released a jenkins plugin which allows incremental cascaded
>>>>>    releases from any level of dependency tree:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Maven+Cascade+Release+Plugin
>>>> Thx for the heads up.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>    2) I hope you can switch away from monolithic releases and release
>>>>>    karaf modules/subsystems on demand and often.
>>>>> 
>>>> Releasing karaf is fairly easy, and we rarely are waiting for third party
>>>> dependencies.
>>>> When that happens, it's mostly because we have bugs waiting to be fixed.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>    3) IIRC,  the first time "3.0.0.RC1 will come out in 2 weeks"  was
>>>>>    promised on this mailing list about 2 years back :-)
>>>>> 
>>>> And this has nothing to do with the release process.  Technically speaking,
>>>> trunk or branches are mostly always in a releasable state.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>    Thank you,
>>>>> 
>>>>>    Andrei
>>>>> 
>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>> Subject: Re: release by subsystem
>>>>> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Date: Thu 07 Feb 2013 02:26:10 PM CST
>>>>>> Hi Andrei,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I understand your point.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Some parts are really tight together. However, that's the purpose of
>>>>>> the minimal distribution and framework:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - framework should provide the most minimal Karaf container (however,
>>>>>> it embeds Aries Blueprint for instance, as Karaf bundles use it)
>>>>>> - minimal is a very lightweight Karaf container, the purpose is to let
>>>>>> the user create a custom distribution on top of that.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm listening all proposals to improve these distributions !
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> JB
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 02/07/2013 05:30 PM, Andrei Pozolotin wrote:
>>>>>>>     *Jean-Baptiste*
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>     I am curious if you envision to change karaf layout so release by
>>>>>>>     subsystem is possible.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>     For example, if I use minimal sub set of karaf, which does not need
>>>>>>>     Aries, why should I wait for it?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>     this is similar to how ops4j was partitioned way back, so there are
>>>>>>>     no monolithic Godzilla releases any more.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>     Thank you,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>     Andrei
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
> 

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