THAT all said, I would also like much more frequent releases.   :-)

Dan



On Mar 12, 2013, at 8:42 PM, Daniel Kulp <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> On Mar 12, 2013, at 8:36 PM, Andrei Pozolotin <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Jamie:
>> 
>> :-)
>> 
>> how about automatic "YES" for RC release provided there is not a single
>> "NO" ?
> 
> As long as there are at least three YES votes to go along with the no NO 
> votes.  :-)
> 
> Seriously, this falls into the lines of standard Apache release process 
> guidelines.  Not something that is really changeable except under extreme 
> circumstances.  (example would be shortening the 72 hour window for an 
> emergency security release)
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> 
>> Andrei
>> 
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: release by subsystem
>> From: Jamie G. <[email protected]>
>> To: Andrei Pozolotin <[email protected]>
>> Cc: [email protected], Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]>
>> Date: Tue 12 Mar 2013 07:32:11 PM CDT
>>> RC's are a tagged and signed entity that are released from Apache -
>>> that requires a vote. The nightly snapshot builds are available for
>>> integration purposes in the mean time.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jamie
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Andrei Pozolotin
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Jamie:
>>>> 
>>>> cant you make a case that RC is not really a release?
>>>> 
>>>> Andrei
>>>> 
>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>> Subject: Re: release by subsystem
>>>> From: Jamie G. <[email protected]>
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Cc: Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]>
>>>> Date: Tue 12 Mar 2013 07:24:53 PM CDT
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry for jumping in here,
>>>> 
>>>> Apache builds require approval before release:
>>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#approving-a-release
>>>> 
>>>> As to release schedule, that's purely at the discretion of the
>>>> community to my best understanding.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Jamie
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Andrei Pozolotin
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Guillaume:
>>>> 
>>>> how about automatic, once a month, karaf RC-XXX release, w/o vote?
>>>> 
>>>> Andrei.
>>>> 
>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>> Subject: Re: release by subsystem
>>>> From: Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]>
>>>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>>> Date: Tue 12 Mar 2013 06:24:24 PM CDT
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Andrei Pozolotin <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>   *Jean-Baptiste, Łukasz**
>>>>   *
>>>>   FYI:
>>>> 
>>>>   1) I released a jenkins plugin which allows incremental cascaded
>>>>   releases from any level of dependency tree:
>>>> 
>>>> https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Maven+Cascade+Release+Plugin
>>>> 
>>>> Thx for the heads up.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>   2) I hope you can switch away from monolithic releases and release
>>>>   karaf modules/subsystems on demand and often.
>>>> 
>>>> Releasing karaf is fairly easy, and we rarely are waiting for third party
>>>> dependencies.
>>>> When that happens, it's mostly because we have bugs waiting to be fixed.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>   3) IIRC,  the first time "3.0.0.RC1 will come out in 2 weeks"  was
>>>>   promised on this mailing list about 2 years back :-)
>>>> 
>>>> And this has nothing to do with the release process.  Technically speaking,
>>>> trunk or branches are mostly always in a releasable state.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>   Thank you,
>>>> 
>>>>   Andrei
>>>> 
>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>> Subject: Re: release by subsystem
>>>> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]>
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Date: Thu 07 Feb 2013 02:26:10 PM CST
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Andrei,
>>>> 
>>>> I understand your point.
>>>> 
>>>> Some parts are really tight together. However, that's the purpose of
>>>> the minimal distribution and framework:
>>>> 
>>>> - framework should provide the most minimal Karaf container (however,
>>>> it embeds Aries Blueprint for instance, as Karaf bundles use it)
>>>> - minimal is a very lightweight Karaf container, the purpose is to let
>>>> the user create a custom distribution on top of that.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm listening all proposals to improve these distributions !
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>> 
>>>> On 02/07/2013 05:30 PM, Andrei Pozolotin wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>    *Jean-Baptiste*
>>>> 
>>>>    I am curious if you envision to change karaf layout so release by
>>>>    subsystem is possible.
>>>> 
>>>>    For example, if I use minimal sub set of karaf, which does not need
>>>>    Aries, why should I wait for it?
>>>> 
>>>>    this is similar to how ops4j was partitioned way back, so there are
>>>>    no monolithic Godzilla releases any more.
>>>> 
>>>>    Thank you,
>>>> 
>>>>    Andrei
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
> 
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