Guillaume: I did not look at 2.x lately, but at the time we made decision for 3.x 2.x features plugin did not work at all for our use cases.
Andrei. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: release by subsystem From: Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]> To: Andrei Pozolotin <[email protected]> Cc: "Jamie G." <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Date: Tue 12 Mar 2013 07:42:30 PM CDT > There's no lazy consensus possible for releases. > > Also, we have done regular releases roughly every 2 months since a few > years (thx to Jamie): http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/karaf/tags/ > > But could make them more frequent, but I think you're confused by the > fact that 3.x is long to be released, which, again, has nothing to do > with the release process. Have you had any real problems with the 2.x > branches that were not fixed in an acceptable delay ? > > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 1:36 AM, Andrei Pozolotin > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Jamie: > > :-) > > how about automatic "YES" for RC release provided there is not a > single "NO" ? > > Andrei > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: release by subsystem > From: Jamie G. <[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected]> > To: Andrei Pozolotin <[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, Guillaume > Nodet <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> > Date: Tue 12 Mar 2013 07:32:11 PM CDT >> RC's are a tagged and signed entity that are released from Apache - >> that requires a vote. The nightly snapshot builds are available for >> integration purposes in the mean time. >> >> Cheers, >> Jamie >> >> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Andrei Pozolotin >> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: >>> Jamie: >>> >>> cant you make a case that RC is not really a release? >>> >>> Andrei >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: Re: release by subsystem >>> From: Jamie G. <[email protected]> >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Cc: Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Date: Tue 12 Mar 2013 07:24:53 PM CDT >>> >>> Sorry for jumping in here, >>> >>> Apache builds require approval before release: >>> http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#approving-a-release >>> >>> As to release schedule, that's purely at the discretion of the >>> community to my best understanding. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Jamie >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Andrei Pozolotin >>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Guillaume: >>> >>> how about automatic, once a month, karaf RC-XXX release, w/o vote? >>> >>> Andrei. >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: Re: release by subsystem >>> From: Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Date: Tue 12 Mar 2013 06:24:24 PM CDT >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Andrei Pozolotin < >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> *Jean-Baptiste, Łukasz** >>> * >>> FYI: >>> >>> 1) I released a jenkins plugin which allows incremental cascaded >>> releases from any level of dependency tree: >>> >>> https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Maven+Cascade+Release+Plugin >>> >>> Thx for the heads up. >>> >>> >>> 2) I hope you can switch away from monolithic releases and release >>> karaf modules/subsystems on demand and often. >>> >>> Releasing karaf is fairly easy, and we rarely are waiting for third >>> party >>> dependencies. >>> When that happens, it's mostly because we have bugs waiting to be fixed. >>> >>> >>> 3) IIRC, the first time "3.0.0.RC1 will come out in 2 weeks" was >>> promised on this mailing list about 2 years back :-) >>> >>> And this has nothing to do with the release process. Technically >>> speaking, >>> trunk or branches are mostly always in a releasable state. >>> >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> Andrei >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: Re: release by subsystem >>> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]> >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Date: Thu 07 Feb 2013 02:26:10 PM CST >>> >>> Hi Andrei, >>> >>> I understand your point. >>> >>> Some parts are really tight together. However, that's the purpose of >>> the minimal distribution and framework: >>> >>> - framework should provide the most minimal Karaf container (however, >>> it embeds Aries Blueprint for instance, as Karaf bundles use it) >>> - minimal is a very lightweight Karaf container, the purpose is to let >>> the user create a custom distribution on top of that. >>> >>> I'm listening all proposals to improve these distributions ! >>> >>> Regards >>> JB >>> >>> On 02/07/2013 05:30 PM, Andrei Pozolotin wrote: >>> >>> *Jean-Baptiste* >>> >>> I am curious if you envision to change karaf layout so release by >>> subsystem is possible. >>> >>> For example, if I use minimal sub set of karaf, which does not need >>> Aries, why should I wait for it? >>> >>> this is similar to how ops4j was partitioned way back, so there are >>> no monolithic Godzilla releases any more. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> Andrei >>> >>> >>> > > > > > -- > ------------------------ > Guillaume Nodet > ------------------------ > Red Hat, Open Source Integration > > Email: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Web: http://fusesource.com <http://fusesource.com/> > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >
