Hi Greg,

yes, I introduced a new smx: protocol handler that takes a json
descriptor. This json descriptor contains:
- source artifacts
- OSGi headers
- eventually transformers (for META-INF/services, MANIFEST, etc)

Regards
JB

On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 10:30 AM Grzegorz Grzybek <gr.grzy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> I'd like to ask about:
>
> For SMX bundles, the objective is not to move as it is. The
> > objective it's to use the new bundle descriptor I started in Pax URL.
> > Karaf "Bundles" will host just the descriptor to create the bundle on
> > the fly (and eventually cached). The other part of SMX (assembly +
> > spec) can be moved in Karaf subproject.
> >
>
> I know that providing OSGi metadata to external 3rd party libs which do not
> care about OSGi is a bit PITA... (I remember back in theserverside.com days
> I suggested using external metadata instead of one kept in
> META-INF/MANIFEST.MF...)
> How do you imagine this on the fly generation? kind of like wrap: protocol?
>
> regards
> Grzegorz Grzybek
>
> pon., 9 sty 2023 o 10:20 fpapon <fpa...@apache.org> napisał(a):
>
> > Hi JB,
> >
> > Make sense for Cave and Winegrower.
> >
> > About Camel-Karaf, as it was announced by the Camel team in the roadmap
> > to Camel 4, I was thinking that it was already acted:
> >
> > https://camel.apache.org/blog/2023/01/camel4roadmap/
> >
> > I asked the question about the OSGi bundle still provide or not by Camel
> > team but no clear decision, Camel team don't want to provide OSGi bundle
> > for Camel core anymore.
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > François
> >
> > On 09/01/2023 10:13, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> > > Hi François,
> > >
> > > Thanks for bringing this discussion.
> > >
> > > Here's my personal standpoint:
> > > 1. Decanter: I started to work on Decanter 3.x (refactoring). I think
> > > we can do a release now with just updates on the collectors/appenders
> > > before moving forward on decanter 3.x. I propose to cut new Decanter
> > > release asap.
> > > 2. Cellar: quite the same as Decanter. I plan a refactoring, but it is
> > > worth doing an updated version (new hazelcast, kubernetes client,
> > > karaf version). Same: I propose to cut new Cellar release asp.
> > > 3. Cave: I think we don't have many users on Cave, maybe it's worth to
> > > move the project to "attic" ?
> > > 4. Winegrower: same as Cave, I don't think we have a lot of users,
> > > maybe it's worth to move the project to "attic" ?
> > > 5. Minho:
> > > 6. For SMX bundles, the objective is not to move as it is. The
> > > objective it's to use the new bundle descriptor I started in Pax URL.
> > > Karaf "Bundles" will host just the descriptor to create the bundle on
> > > the fly (and eventually cached). The other part of SMX (assembly +
> > > spec) can be moved in Karaf subproject.
> > > 7. For camel-karaf, I'm open to community proposals. If it's better to
> > > have it in Karaf, I'm OK with it (same question about jclouds-karaf).
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > JB
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 10:07 AM fpapon <fpa...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> I want to start a thread about Apache Karaf subprojects roadmap and
> > >> maintainability.
> > >>
> > >> Today we have:
> > >>
> > >> - Decanter: last release on Feb. 2022
> > >>
> > >> - Cellar: last release on Aug. 2020
> > >>
> > >> - Cave: last release on Nov. 2019
> > >>
> > >> We also have:
> > >>
> > >> - Winegrower: last release on Nov. 2020
> > >>
> > >> - Minho: last release on Jan. 2023 (but plan to move to dedicated TLP
> > >> project)
> > >>
> > >> There is also some discussion about moving SMX bundle and Camel-Karaf as
> > >> Karaf subprojects so I think it will be nice to see what we would/could
> > >> maintain.
> > >>
> > >> regards,
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> --
> > >> François
> > >>
> > --
> > --
> > François
> >
> >

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