Hi JB,

As the work to move main branch of Camel to V4 is on the way right now, do we need to start a vote on Karaf mailing list to approve or not the move of Camel-Karaf under the umbrella of Karaf as a new subproject?

regards,

François

On 10/01/2023 13:53, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
Following this thread, I propose to start a vote to move Cave and
Winegrower to "attic" (basically, removing mentions on website and
announcing "not active" state).

Regards
JB

On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 10:19 AM fpapon <fpa...@apache.org> wrote:
Hi JB,

Make sense for Cave and Winegrower.

About Camel-Karaf, as it was announced by the Camel team in the roadmap
to Camel 4, I was thinking that it was already acted:

https://camel.apache.org/blog/2023/01/camel4roadmap/

I asked the question about the OSGi bundle still provide or not by Camel
team but no clear decision, Camel team don't want to provide OSGi bundle
for Camel core anymore.

regards,

François

On 09/01/2023 10:13, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
Hi François,

Thanks for bringing this discussion.

Here's my personal standpoint:
1. Decanter: I started to work on Decanter 3.x (refactoring). I think
we can do a release now with just updates on the collectors/appenders
before moving forward on decanter 3.x. I propose to cut new Decanter
release asap.
2. Cellar: quite the same as Decanter. I plan a refactoring, but it is
worth doing an updated version (new hazelcast, kubernetes client,
karaf version). Same: I propose to cut new Cellar release asp.
3. Cave: I think we don't have many users on Cave, maybe it's worth to
move the project to "attic" ?
4. Winegrower: same as Cave, I don't think we have a lot of users,
maybe it's worth to move the project to "attic" ?
5. Minho:
6. For SMX bundles, the objective is not to move as it is. The
objective it's to use the new bundle descriptor I started in Pax URL.
Karaf "Bundles" will host just the descriptor to create the bundle on
the fly (and eventually cached). The other part of SMX (assembly +
spec) can be moved in Karaf subproject.
7. For camel-karaf, I'm open to community proposals. If it's better to
have it in Karaf, I'm OK with it (same question about jclouds-karaf).

Regards
JB

On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 10:07 AM fpapon <fpa...@apache.org> wrote:
Hi,

I want to start a thread about Apache Karaf subprojects roadmap and
maintainability.

Today we have:

- Decanter: last release on Feb. 2022

- Cellar: last release on Aug. 2020

- Cave: last release on Nov. 2019

We also have:

- Winegrower: last release on Nov. 2020

- Minho: last release on Jan. 2023 (but plan to move to dedicated TLP
project)

There is also some discussion about moving SMX bundle and Camel-Karaf as
Karaf subprojects so I think it will be nice to see what we would/could
maintain.

regards,

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