Hi François-

I recall the discussion about removing the OSGi support from Camel, but I do 
not see it listed on the ROADMAP to Camel 4 link.

Did OSGi header support for camel jars officially get dropped?  Seems like such 
a minor thing to keep around.

-Matt

> On Jan 9, 2023, at 3:19 AM, fpapon <fpa...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi JB,
> 
> Make sense for Cave and Winegrower.
> 
> About Camel-Karaf, as it was announced by the Camel team in the roadmap to 
> Camel 4, I was thinking that it was already acted:
> 
> https://camel.apache.org/blog/2023/01/camel4roadmap/
> 
> I asked the question about the OSGi bundle still provide or not by Camel team 
> but no clear decision, Camel team don't want to provide OSGi bundle for Camel 
> core anymore.
> 
> regards,
> 
> François
> 
> On 09/01/2023 10:13, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
>> Hi François,
>> 
>> Thanks for bringing this discussion.
>> 
>> Here's my personal standpoint:
>> 1. Decanter: I started to work on Decanter 3.x (refactoring). I think
>> we can do a release now with just updates on the collectors/appenders
>> before moving forward on decanter 3.x. I propose to cut new Decanter
>> release asap.
>> 2. Cellar: quite the same as Decanter. I plan a refactoring, but it is
>> worth doing an updated version (new hazelcast, kubernetes client,
>> karaf version). Same: I propose to cut new Cellar release asp.
>> 3. Cave: I think we don't have many users on Cave, maybe it's worth to
>> move the project to "attic" ?
>> 4. Winegrower: same as Cave, I don't think we have a lot of users,
>> maybe it's worth to move the project to "attic" ?
>> 5. Minho:
>> 6. For SMX bundles, the objective is not to move as it is. The
>> objective it's to use the new bundle descriptor I started in Pax URL.
>> Karaf "Bundles" will host just the descriptor to create the bundle on
>> the fly (and eventually cached). The other part of SMX (assembly +
>> spec) can be moved in Karaf subproject.
>> 7. For camel-karaf, I'm open to community proposals. If it's better to
>> have it in Karaf, I'm OK with it (same question about jclouds-karaf).
>> 
>> Regards
>> JB
>> 
>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 10:07 AM fpapon <fpa...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I want to start a thread about Apache Karaf subprojects roadmap and
>>> maintainability.
>>> 
>>> Today we have:
>>> 
>>> - Decanter: last release on Feb. 2022
>>> 
>>> - Cellar: last release on Aug. 2020
>>> 
>>> - Cave: last release on Nov. 2019
>>> 
>>> We also have:
>>> 
>>> - Winegrower: last release on Nov. 2020
>>> 
>>> - Minho: last release on Jan. 2023 (but plan to move to dedicated TLP
>>> project)
>>> 
>>> There is also some discussion about moving SMX bundle and Camel-Karaf as
>>> Karaf subprojects so I think it will be nice to see what we would/could
>>> maintain.
>>> 
>>> regards,
>>> 
>>> --
>>> --
>>> François
>>> 
> -- 
> --
> François
> 

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