Hi,

Yes, we need a vote from the Karaf community. I will start it tonight
or tomorrow morning.

Regards
JB

On Thu, Jan 12, 2023 at 5:08 PM Francois Papon
<francois.pa...@openobject.fr> wrote:
>
> Hi JB,
>
> As the work to move main branch of Camel to V4 is on the way right now,
> do we need to start a vote on Karaf mailing list to approve or not the
> move of Camel-Karaf under the umbrella of Karaf as a new subproject?
>
> regards,
>
> François
>
> On 10/01/2023 13:53, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> > Following this thread, I propose to start a vote to move Cave and
> > Winegrower to "attic" (basically, removing mentions on website and
> > announcing "not active" state).
> >
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 10:19 AM fpapon <fpa...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> Hi JB,
> >>
> >> Make sense for Cave and Winegrower.
> >>
> >> About Camel-Karaf, as it was announced by the Camel team in the roadmap
> >> to Camel 4, I was thinking that it was already acted:
> >>
> >> https://camel.apache.org/blog/2023/01/camel4roadmap/
> >>
> >> I asked the question about the OSGi bundle still provide or not by Camel
> >> team but no clear decision, Camel team don't want to provide OSGi bundle
> >> for Camel core anymore.
> >>
> >> regards,
> >>
> >> François
> >>
> >> On 09/01/2023 10:13, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> >>> Hi François,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for bringing this discussion.
> >>>
> >>> Here's my personal standpoint:
> >>> 1. Decanter: I started to work on Decanter 3.x (refactoring). I think
> >>> we can do a release now with just updates on the collectors/appenders
> >>> before moving forward on decanter 3.x. I propose to cut new Decanter
> >>> release asap.
> >>> 2. Cellar: quite the same as Decanter. I plan a refactoring, but it is
> >>> worth doing an updated version (new hazelcast, kubernetes client,
> >>> karaf version). Same: I propose to cut new Cellar release asp.
> >>> 3. Cave: I think we don't have many users on Cave, maybe it's worth to
> >>> move the project to "attic" ?
> >>> 4. Winegrower: same as Cave, I don't think we have a lot of users,
> >>> maybe it's worth to move the project to "attic" ?
> >>> 5. Minho:
> >>> 6. For SMX bundles, the objective is not to move as it is. The
> >>> objective it's to use the new bundle descriptor I started in Pax URL.
> >>> Karaf "Bundles" will host just the descriptor to create the bundle on
> >>> the fly (and eventually cached). The other part of SMX (assembly +
> >>> spec) can be moved in Karaf subproject.
> >>> 7. For camel-karaf, I'm open to community proposals. If it's better to
> >>> have it in Karaf, I'm OK with it (same question about jclouds-karaf).
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> JB
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 10:07 AM fpapon <fpa...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I want to start a thread about Apache Karaf subprojects roadmap and
> >>>> maintainability.
> >>>>
> >>>> Today we have:
> >>>>
> >>>> - Decanter: last release on Feb. 2022
> >>>>
> >>>> - Cellar: last release on Aug. 2020
> >>>>
> >>>> - Cave: last release on Nov. 2019
> >>>>
> >>>> We also have:
> >>>>
> >>>> - Winegrower: last release on Nov. 2020
> >>>>
> >>>> - Minho: last release on Jan. 2023 (but plan to move to dedicated TLP
> >>>> project)
> >>>>
> >>>> There is also some discussion about moving SMX bundle and Camel-Karaf as
> >>>> Karaf subprojects so I think it will be nice to see what we would/could
> >>>> maintain.
> >>>>
> >>>> regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> --
> >>>> François
> >>>>
> >> --
> >> --
> >> François
> >>

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