Kris, I think this is a topic for a TLP project, I struggle how to manage to have such a relationship while in incubation.
On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 12:56 PM Kris Verlaenen <[email protected]> wrote: > Making sure our technology is visible and well integrated imho will be key > to adoption. > > For that, I don't think we need to choose one platform over the other, I > don't see it as an either-or, more like if we have contributors that want > to work on that. > I agree on challenges around releases, we do not want to align our releases > with external release schedules like Quarkus. But I believe this should > not be required, for example the quarkus ecosystem should give us a lot of > flexibility to release at our own pace. And we can decide what version of > Quarkus we are targeting (more slowly following the LTS rather than always > chasing the latest community). > Finally, I believe there are definitely strong signs of people looking for > this kind of integration, and that it's helping to expose our technology. > The fact that the 10.0 release is a prerequisite for this has prevented us > from doing this, but I still get this question regularly from people within > the Quarkus community. > > Of course this should not block any of our release work, I believe this is > something we can look into once the release is available and approved, as > it's basically more adding our project to the registry of known plugins so > people know where to find our artefacts. > > Thx, > Kris > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 5:43 PM Jason Porter <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > I agree with all of this discussion. There are plenty of projects out > > there that have modules/integrations/whatever with various platforms and > > are not considered "part of" the platform. I think KIE ends up being the > > same thing. It runs on/with Quarkus and Spring Boot, but doesn't > > necessarily follow the same release cadence. I don't think we've been > > listed as part of the Quarkus ecosystem since version 2 of Quarkus. I > don't > > know about Spring Boot. > > > > I really think we grow faster making Spring Boot a first class > integration > > for us. We'll get more people joining, using, helping, etc. > > > > On 2024/08/07 11:23:37 Alex Porcelli wrote: > > > Quarkus is a fast paced environment, we still struggle to release 10; > > > > > > Once we have a regular consistent release schedule we can better > > evaluate. > > > > > > +1 big time to raise SB3 as first class citizen before considering > > Quarkus > > > platform. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 5:34 AM Francisco Javier Tirado Sarti < > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Although it has not been our policy so far, from a community > > perspective I > > > > fully agree with Enrique, for the same reasons he argued. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 11:21 AM Enrique Gonzalez Martinez < > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Tibor, > > > > > Honestly I don't think we should make the effort to publish our > > > > > extensions there (either quarkus or spring boot). This will tie us > to > > > > > their lifecycle and that could be overkilling right now for us, as > we > > > > > are moving towards GA. When the project is more mature I think > there > > > > > might be room to do it, but right now I don't think we should be > part > > > > > of those platforms., > > > > > > > > > > El mié, 7 ago 2024 a las 11:12, Tibor Zimányi (< > [email protected] > > >) > > > > > escribió: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Toshiya, > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you for opening this thread. I personally think, we should > be > > > > part > > > > > of > > > > > > Quarkus platform. However I think the question should be broader. > > > > > Majority > > > > > > in the industry use Spring, so I think we should resolve this > > > > discussion > > > > > on > > > > > > a broader scale. I think Spring (and Spring Boot) should be a > first > > > > class > > > > > > citizen too in our code the same way Quarkus is. So I think the > > > > > discussion > > > > > > should be about if we want KIE be part of both Quarkus platform > and > > > > > > start.spring.io. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Tibor > > > > > > > > > > > > Dňa st 7. 8. 2024, 11:06 Toshiya Kobayashi < > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > napísal(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jan raised a concern > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'd check one thing here with the mailing list - if we still > > want > > > > to > > > > > > > perform any steps towards being part of that platform. I mean, > > fixing > > > > > > > pipelines is a good thing here, but I am not sure if we > actually > > want > > > > > to > > > > > > > make it work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-kogito-pipelines/pull/1229#issuecomment-2268789394 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It means "Do we want to keep kogito as a part of > > quarkus-platform?" > > > > > and if > > > > > > > the quarkus platform jobs should even exist. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have thoughts on this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Toshiya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Saludos, Enrique González Martínez :) > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > >
