Hi,

Le 19 juil. 08 à 14:09, Clytie Siddall a écrit :



During OOoCon 2007 the Wiki was discussed and recommended as an
alternative to *.openoffice.org web pages when the CollabNet
infrastructure made them hard to write or maintain. So some pages on the
Wiki do not have a corresponding English page.

It would be nice to come up with a structure for those pages too. For
instance, the page for Italian presentation at Linux Day 2006 is
currently placed at the (ugly) URI
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Italian_Linux_Day_2006
Should we put it at
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/IT/Italian_Linux_Day_2006
even if a corresponding English page will likely never exist? And should
we use English in the URI anyway?

I suggest that the original page decides the pagename. That way, "IT/ Italian_Linux_Day_2006" is the original page, and if I translated it into Vietnamese, it would become "VI/Italian_Linux_Day_2006". An English version would be simply "Italian_Linux_Day_2006". Although maybe this means all English pages should be "EN/pagename".

Clayton says we can changeover a large number of pages using a WikiBot, e.g. move all "pagename_vi" pages to "VI/pagename". We just make a list of the changes we need, then send them to him.

Also, for individual pages, we can change the name ourselves (move the page). And the {{DISPLAYTITLE:Your_localized_title}} tag makes it possible for us to distinguish the URL from the page title.

from Clytie

I see some (mostly moral and philosophical) grounds for Andrea's objection. I also remember that one of the reasons why the wiki was set up was to allow a larger number of contributors to post and upload content on it. So let me propose something iconoclast: Say we keep the wiki naming and l10n conventions in place, but that we also allow pages with i18n URIs. By internationalized URIs I only propose to have pages with titles in one specific languages, such as, for instance, http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOocon2008_marketingBericht for a page that could be called http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/DE/OOocon2008_marketingreport

You may ask WTF??? but the reason I'm proposing this is precisely the internationalized URIs that start to be implemented here and there. In a few years we will have to switch to that system imho so why not start experimenting with them?

(NB: once again, I don't advocate abandonning the present system at all, I'm just proposing to allow a parrallel system to exist and see if that works).

Best,
Charles.

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