On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 12:29 +0200, Michael Wechner wrote: > Thorsten Scherler wrote: ... > >Isn't it so much easier to criticize people, then actually doing some > >work? > > ... > And I am not weighting how much have other people been done or doing, > because most of it is voluntarily resp. depends on what position you are > in (for instance PMC chair has some responsibilities, but it's voluntary > to be PMC chair) and I also don't think it's very healthy for the > relationship of this community to compare each other.
Nice to see that you finally changed your mind regarding this matter. I can remember threads as http://marc.info/?t=113863779500003&r=1&w=2 on dev and a lot on private where you did compare (even asked people to step down from certain roles). > > For instance Andreas and Joern spend a lot of time code-wise, but I > would never say that Jann or you are worse because you spend less time > code-wise. Didn't you just said you do not want to compare? So why are you doing it now? Scary! ... > >>>now you pick out single lines of other people's postings, generalize > >>>statements that were never meant as such, and ask rhethorical > >>>questions that sometimes border on hostile yet seldom convey a > >>>palpable personal standpoint. you claim ideals of good-will, openness > >>>and meritocracy, but frequently phrase them in a way as to be plain > >>>rude to people. ... > >>why do you think these questions are rude? I don't think so. ... > >Yeah and in the end that is the only thing that count, your own opinion, > >isn't it? ... > But my question was, why do you think my questions are rude? If you would spend more time reading answers carefully instead directly replying, you see the answer already addressed in the original mail from Jörn: - pick out single lines of other people's postings - generalize statements that were never meant as such - rhetorical questions that sometimes border on hostile yet seldom convey a palpable personal standpoint > So far, I just get the impression, that you cannot answer my questions, Frankly no one can! See above (and further down) for the answer given already to you, but if you do not get the answer that you like to hear, you keep on asking the same question over and over again. Like a child in the car asking every 5 min whether they reached the final destination. > maybe because you did something wrong, or didn't really think about your > actions, or whatever. Symptomatically you exclude an error by yourself. So it must be me, right? BTW what have my actions to do in this context? ... > >>Have you seen an answer from Thorsten lately why he is considering Alfresco? ... > > > >On 2007-04-27 23:02:22 I wrote: > >"...I am ATM evaluating different CMS for my current client and one of > >them is Alfresco. ..." ... > >Using this sentence to state I am considering Alfresco, is FUD! > > I was just asking if you could post a summary of your findings such that > we can learn something from. No, the above clearly ask why I consider Alfresco (implying that I do). ... > >The Spanish government (which is my client) is evaluating around 10 > >different CMS (like Plone, Alfresco, Liferay, Daisy, Magnolia, ...). The > >evaluation is not meet to be published on a public mailing list and is > >very specific for different public organizations here in Spain. ... > sounds great. Maybe you can post a summary of the outcome of this > evaluation. The above paragraph clearly states that I cannot and further explain that even if I can, it would be from very little value for lenya since it is highly use case specific. Like said I did not give the answer you like to hear so you go on and on and on... ... > I think every help is appreciated, doesn't matter how big it is. My words, nice that we have this in common. > > Are you not aware that I am as well active > >on other Apache projects? ... > But as said I don't think it's healthy for this community to compare > each other on voluntary work. > > I also got three children and salaries to pay and spend time on Open > Source projects such as Yanel, Yulup, Open Development Initiative, > Nutch/Lucene, OSCOM and Lenya but that's my problem and I won't make it > a problem of this community. I asked a question, didn't I? Did I compare anything or anyone? Did I made my involvement or my private life a problem of this community? It is sentence like this that explicitly imply I did, why are you saying it? To offend? Out of carelessly? On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 16:23 +0200, Michael Wechner wrote: > you (and Thorsten and Gregor) are not able to differentiate between > my > statements/questions and the feelings you have towards myself. Let me assure you, I do not have any feelings (nor hard nor warm) toward your person. Why should I? I just do not like the way you ignore statements from others, offending them to provoke a reaction. Maybe you are the one that cannot differentiate? salu2 -- Thorsten Scherler thorsten.at.apache.org Open Source Java consulting, training and solutions --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
