Hi all,

Since we discussed the topic yesterday at the hackatlon - I'll crosspost to this list.


On Jul 12, 2007, at 12:39 AM, Michael Wechner wrote:

Hi

As Joern has pointed out during the hackathon today the spec for the Neutron Sitetree response was missing.

I have added an example

http://neutron.wyona.org/draft-neutron-protocol-v0.html#rfc.section. 5.2


[Neutron specs]

<introspection xmlns="http://www.wyona.org/neutron/1.0";>
  <navigation>
    <sitetree href="sitetree.xml" method="GET"/>
    <--
    <sitetree href="/" method="PROPFIND"/>
    -->
  </navigation>
</introspection>


IIRC Neutron does not require the server to support webDAV. Therefore the GET method in the above example.

That's a good thing. This way people can do the I/O and sitetree stuff with http servers that lack webDAV support simply by using introspection files, GET/PUT or scripted POST'S. They even can use different transport protocols for doing it - we once agreed that Neutron should not depend on any given transport protocol, did we?

But why adopt webDAV vocabulary and send a response that (when used over http) implies that you deal with a webDAV server when in fact you don't?

Also, is the Neutron variant of a webDAV multipart response bound to the URI namespace rules the webDAV spec does enforce?

Another question is if webDAV lingo is sufficient for what neutron clients might want to provide users with. Suppose a client wants to provide users with a tree view on a Lenya publication like the Lenya site tab does: i.e. tabs for switching between different language versions of a site where missing items are replaced by grayed out placeholders pointing to a default language version. Can you give an example of how this could be done in a nice way by using webDAV vocabulary only - or possibly enriched webDAV?


Here's what we use at UZH in our 1.2 publication to spit out sitetree data. It's rdf that uses the following custom tags:

 - map:navigation       A navigational structure
 - map:node             A navigation node
 - map:childNodes       Child nodes
- map:resources Resources bound to a node (e.g. documents in various langauges document)

It seems to work for us but has very much room for improvement of course!

Best Regards
Thomas



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<RDF>
<Description dc:name="Unitemplate Sitemap" map:defaultLanguage="de" map:root="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/"; about="http:// localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/site.rdf"/> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="UniTemplate" about="http:// localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/index.html"/> <map:resource dc:language="en" dc:name="UniTemplate" about="http:// localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/index_en.html"/> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Allgemeine Dokumenttypen" about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml.html"/> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="1 Spalte" about="http:// localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml/1column.html"/> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="2 Spalten" about="http:// localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml/2columns.html"/> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="3 Spalten" about="http:// localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml/3columns.html"/> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Strukt. Dokumenttypen" about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom.html"/> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="News" about="http://localhost: 8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/News.html"/> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Lang" about="http://localhost: 8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/News/EintragLang.html"/> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Kurz" about="http://localhost: 8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/News/Kurz.html"/> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Team" about="http://localhost: 8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/Team.html"/> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Gret Muster" about="http:// localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/Team/Muster.html"/> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Impressum" about="http:// localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/impressum.html"/> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Kontakt" about="http:// localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/contact.html"/> <map:resource dc:language="en" dc:name="Contact" about="http:// localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/contact_en.html"/> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Sitemap" about="http:// localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/sitemap.html"/> <map:resource dc:language="en" dc:name="Sitemap" about="http:// localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/sitemap_en.html"/> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Suche" about="http:// localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/search.html"/> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Redirect" about="http:// localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/redirect.html"/> <map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="test" about="http://localhost: 8888/unitemplate/authoring/test.html"/>
<map:node dc:name="index" about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/ authoring/index">
−
        <map:resources>
−
        <Bag>
<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/index.html"/>
<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/ index_en.html"/>
</Bag>
</map:resources>
</map:node>
−
<map:node dc:name="xhtml" about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/ authoring/xhtml">
−
        <map:resources>
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        <Bag>
<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml.html"/>
</Bag>
</map:resources>
−
        <map:childNodes>
−
        <Seq>
<li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml/ 1column"/> <li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml/ 2columns"/> <li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml/ 3columns"/>
</Seq>
</map:childNodes>
</map:node>
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<map:node dc:name="1column" about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/ authoring/xhtml/1column">
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        <map:resources>
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        <Bag>
<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml/ 1column.html"/>
</Bag>
</map:resources>
</map:node>
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<map:node dc:name="2columns" about="http://localhost:8888/ unitemplate/authoring/xhtml/2columns">
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        <map:resources>
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        <Bag>
<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml/ 2columns.html"/>
</Bag>
</map:resources>
</map:node>
−
<map:node dc:name="3columns" about="http://localhost:8888/ unitemplate/authoring/xhtml/3columns">
−
        <map:resources>
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        <Bag>
<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml/ 3columns.html"/>
</Bag>
</map:resources>
</map:node>
−
<map:node dc:name="custom" about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/ authoring/custom">
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        <map:resources>
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        <Bag>
<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom.html"/>
</Bag>
</map:resources>
−
        <map:childNodes>
−
        <Seq>
<li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/ News"/> <li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/ Team"/>
</Seq>
</map:childNodes>
</map:node>
−
<map:node dc:name="News" about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/ authoring/custom/News">
−
        <map:resources>
−
        <Bag>
<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/ News.html"/>
</Bag>
</map:resources>
−
        <map:childNodes>
−
        <Seq>
<li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/ News/EintragLang"/> <li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/ News/Kurz"/>
</Seq>
</map:childNodes>
</map:node>
−
<map:node dc:name="EintragLang" about="http://localhost:8888/ unitemplate/authoring/custom/News/EintragLang">
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        <map:resources>
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        <Bag>
<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/News/ EintragLang.html"/>
</Bag>
</map:resources>
</map:node>
−
<map:node dc:name="Kurz" about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/ authoring/custom/News/Kurz">
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        <map:resources>
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        <Bag>
<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/News/ Kurz.html"/>
</Bag>
</map:resources>
</map:node>
−
<map:node dc:name="Team" about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/ authoring/custom/Team">
−
        <map:resources>
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        <Bag>
<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/ Team.html"/>
</Bag>
</map:resources>
−
        <map:childNodes>
−
        <Seq>
<li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/ Team/Muster"/>
</Seq>
</map:childNodes>
</map:node>
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<map:node dc:name="Muster" about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/ authoring/custom/Team/Muster">
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        <map:resources>
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        <Bag>
<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/Team/ Muster.html"/>
</Bag>
</map:resources>
</map:node>
−
<map:node dc:name="impressum" about="http://localhost:8888/ unitemplate/authoring/impressum">
−
        <map:resources>
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        <Bag>
<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/ impressum.html"/>
</Bag>
</map:resources>
</map:node>
−
<map:node dc:name="contact" about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/ authoring/contact">
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        <map:resources>
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        <Bag>
<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/ contact.html"/> <li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/ contact_en.html"/>
</Bag>
</map:resources>
</map:node>
−
<map:node dc:name="sitemap" about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/ authoring/sitemap">
−
        <map:resources>
−
        <Bag>
<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/ sitemap.html"/> <li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/ sitemap_en.html"/>
</Bag>
</map:resources>
</map:node>
−
<map:node dc:name="search" about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/ authoring/search">
−
        <map:resources>
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        <Bag>
<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/search.html"/>
</Bag>
</map:resources>
</map:node>
−
<map:node dc:name="redirect" about="http://localhost:8888/ unitemplate/authoring/redirect">
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        <map:resources>
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        <Bag>
<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/ redirect.html"/>
</Bag>
</map:resources>
</map:node>
−
<map:node dc:name="test" about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/ authoring/test">
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        <map:resources>
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        <Bag>
<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/test.html"/>
</Bag>
</map:resources>
</map:node>
−
        <map:navigation about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/";>
−
        <map:childNodes>
−
        <Seq>
<li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/index"/>
<li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml"/>
<li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom"/>
<li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/ impressum"/>
<li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/contact"/>
<li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/sitemap"/>
<li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/search"/>
<li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/ redirect"/>
<li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/test"/>
</Seq>
</map:childNodes>
</map:navigation>
</RDF>





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