Re: [Osr-101] Re: Neutron Sitetree response

Fri, 13 Jul 2007 01:47:55 -0700 

Michael Wechner wrote:






But why adopt webDAV vocabulary and send a response that (when used  
over http) implies that you deal with a webDAV server when in fact  
you don't?





well, we didn't want to reinvent the wheel for something which seems 
to be ok.





also since one can use PROPFIND as an alternative method I think this 
makes sense, because otherwise
we basically would have to limit it to GET only because and I guess it 
would be strange  to receive some  custom neutron XML back from a 
PROPFIND request.



Also I think there are some systems out there which already have 
PROPFIND implemented








Also, is the Neutron variant of a webDAV multipart response bound to  
the URI namespace rules the webDAV spec does enforce?




you mean xmlns="DAV:" ?




Another question is if webDAV lingo is sufficient for what neutron  
clients might want to provide users with. Suppose a client wants to  
provide users with a tree view on a Lenya publication like the Lenya  
site tab does: i.e. tabs for switching between different language  
versions of a site where missing items are replaced by grayed out  
placeholders pointing to a default language version. Can you give an  
example of how this could be done in a nice way by using webDAV  
vocabulary only - or possibly enriched webDAV?





I guess this could be by enhancing the WebDAV with some neutron elements 
with the neutron namespace






Here's what we use at UZH in our 1.2 publication to spit out 
sitetree  data. It's rdf that uses the following custom tags:


 - map:navigation    A navigational structure
 - map:node        A navigation node
 - map:childNodes    Child nodes

 - map:resources    Resources bound to a node (e.g. documents in  
various langauges document)





thanks for sharing this. As said I will open an amendment and then we 
can start adding pros and cons.


Cheers

Michi




It seems to work for us but has very much room for improvement of  
course!


Best Regards
Thomas



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<RDF>

<Description dc:name="Unitemplate Sitemap" map:defaultLanguage="de"  
map:root="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/"; 
about="http:// localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/site.rdf"/>
<map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="UniTemplate" about="http:// 
localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/index.html"/>
<map:resource dc:language="en" dc:name="UniTemplate" about="http:// 
localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/index_en.html"/>
<map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Allgemeine Dokumenttypen"  
about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml.html"/>
<map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="1 Spalte" about="http:// 
localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml/1column.html"/>
<map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="2 Spalten" about="http:// 
localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml/2columns.html"/>
<map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="3 Spalten" about="http:// 
localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml/3columns.html"/>
<map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Strukt. Dokumenttypen"  
about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom.html"/>
<map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="News" 
about="http://localhost: 8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/News.html"/>
<map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Lang" 
about="http://localhost: 
8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/News/EintragLang.html"/>
<map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Kurz" 
about="http://localhost: 
8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/News/Kurz.html"/>
<map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Team" 
about="http://localhost: 8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/Team.html"/>
<map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Gret Muster" about="http:// 
localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/Team/Muster.html"/>
<map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Impressum" about="http:// 
localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/impressum.html"/>
<map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Kontakt" about="http:// 
localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/contact.html"/>
<map:resource dc:language="en" dc:name="Contact" about="http:// 
localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/contact_en.html"/>
<map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Sitemap" about="http:// 
localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/sitemap.html"/>
<map:resource dc:language="en" dc:name="Sitemap" about="http:// 
localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/sitemap_en.html"/>
<map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Suche" about="http:// 
localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/search.html"/>
<map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="Redirect" about="http:// 
localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/redirect.html"/>
<map:resource dc:language="de" dc:name="test" 
about="http://localhost: 8888/unitemplate/authoring/test.html"/>

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    <map:node dc:name="index" 
about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/ authoring/index">

−
    <map:resources>
−
    <Bag>
<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/index.html"/>

<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/ 
index_en.html"/>

</Bag>
</map:resources>
</map:node>
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about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/ authoring/xhtml">

−
    <map:resources>
−
    <Bag>
<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml.html"/>
</Bag>
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1column"/>
<li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml/ 
2columns"/>
<li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml/ 
3columns"/>

</Seq>
</map:childNodes>
</map:node>
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    <map:node dc:name="1column" 
about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/ authoring/xhtml/1column">

−
    <map:resources>
−
    <Bag>

<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml/ 
1column.html"/>

</Bag>
</map:resources>
</map:node>
−

    <map:node dc:name="2columns" about="http://localhost:8888/ 
unitemplate/authoring/xhtml/2columns">

−
    <map:resources>
−
    <Bag>

<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml/ 
2columns.html"/>

</Bag>
</map:resources>
</map:node>
−

    <map:node dc:name="3columns" about="http://localhost:8888/ 
unitemplate/authoring/xhtml/3columns">

−
    <map:resources>
−
    <Bag>

<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml/ 
3columns.html"/>

</Bag>
</map:resources>
</map:node>
−

    <map:node dc:name="custom" 
about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/ authoring/custom">

−
    <map:resources>
−
    <Bag>
<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom.html"/>
</Bag>
</map:resources>
−
    <map:childNodes>
−
    <Seq>

<li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/ 
News"/>
<li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/ 
Team"/>

</Seq>
</map:childNodes>
</map:node>
−

    <map:node dc:name="News" 
about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/ authoring/custom/News">

−
    <map:resources>
−
    <Bag>

<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/ 
News.html"/>

</Bag>
</map:resources>
−
    <map:childNodes>
−
    <Seq>

<li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/ 
News/EintragLang"/>
<li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/ 
News/Kurz"/>

</Seq>
</map:childNodes>
</map:node>
−

    <map:node dc:name="EintragLang" about="http://localhost:8888/ 
unitemplate/authoring/custom/News/EintragLang">

−
    <map:resources>
−
    <Bag>

<li 
resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/News/ 
EintragLang.html"/>

</Bag>
</map:resources>
</map:node>
−

    <map:node dc:name="Kurz" 
about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/ authoring/custom/News/Kurz">

−
    <map:resources>
−
    <Bag>

<li 
resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/News/ 
Kurz.html"/>

</Bag>
</map:resources>
</map:node>
−

    <map:node dc:name="Team" 
about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/ authoring/custom/Team">

−
    <map:resources>
−
    <Bag>

<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/ 
Team.html"/>

</Bag>
</map:resources>
−
    <map:childNodes>
−
    <Seq>

<li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/ 
Team/Muster"/>

</Seq>
</map:childNodes>
</map:node>
−

    <map:node dc:name="Muster" 
about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/ authoring/custom/Team/Muster">

−
    <map:resources>
−
    <Bag>

<li 
resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom/Team/ 
Muster.html"/>

</Bag>
</map:resources>
</map:node>
−

    <map:node dc:name="impressum" about="http://localhost:8888/ 
unitemplate/authoring/impressum">

−
    <map:resources>
−
    <Bag>

<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/ 
impressum.html"/>

</Bag>
</map:resources>
</map:node>
−

    <map:node dc:name="contact" 
about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/ authoring/contact">

−
    <map:resources>
−
    <Bag>

<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/ 
contact.html"/>
<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/ 
contact_en.html"/>

</Bag>
</map:resources>
</map:node>
−

    <map:node dc:name="sitemap" 
about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/ authoring/sitemap">

−
    <map:resources>
−
    <Bag>

<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/ 
sitemap.html"/>
<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/ 
sitemap_en.html"/>

</Bag>
</map:resources>
</map:node>
−

    <map:node dc:name="search" 
about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/ authoring/search">

−
    <map:resources>
−
    <Bag>
<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/search.html"/>
</Bag>
</map:resources>
</map:node>
−

    <map:node dc:name="redirect" about="http://localhost:8888/ 
unitemplate/authoring/redirect">

−
    <map:resources>
−
    <Bag>

<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/ 
redirect.html"/>

</Bag>
</map:resources>
</map:node>
−

    <map:node dc:name="test" 
about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/ authoring/test">

−
    <map:resources>
−
    <Bag>
<li resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/test.html"/>
</Bag>
</map:resources>
</map:node>
−

    <map:navigation 
about="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/";>

−
    <map:childNodes>
−
    <Seq>
<li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/index"/>
<li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/xhtml"/>
<li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/custom"/>

<li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/ 
impressum"/>

<li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/contact"/>
<li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/sitemap"/>
<li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/search"/>

<li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/ 
redirect"/>

<li rdf:resource="http://localhost:8888/unitemplate/authoring/test"/>
</Seq>
</map:childNodes>
</map:navigation>
</RDF>






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