>
>
> * What do you think of the general idea of redesigning lenya?
>
A redesign would be great - but a templating system similar to that
available in other cms systems would surely be better?

Whilst we can create xhtml templates or hack the lenya xsl files - it
would be much more elegant to be able to create a template and import it
into the authoring environment.

> * What do you think about the idea of a design contest? A critical
> question here is certainly, if we have enough resources to organize
> the contest and if lenya has sufficient visibility to attract web
> design pros to take part in the process.
This would also be a good idea but if we had a templating mechanism,
then the design output could go some way to creating a number of default
templates - would this be a better use of resources?

Just my 2 cents!

Regards


Vik

Juergen Ragaller wrote:
> Hi Lenya devs!
>
>
> Last year (on IRC) we discussed an iX (german it magazine) article
> where the lenya design (Authoring gui) was critizised as not so
> appealing (don't have the exact wordings at hand). This opinion was
> widely shared by the participants of our meeting in Freiburg, and we
> decided to bring up this subject in the mailing list, and to propose a
> redesign  - possibly by organizing a design contest. 
>
>
> There are three candidates for a redesign:
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>
> 1) The Authoring GUI
> 2) The default publication
> 3) The docu publication - currently in a «raw» design
>
> 2) and 3) could be merged, with the idea, that the default publication
> is replaced with the docu publication (minus one publication to
> maintain and to style).
>
> Ideally the GUI and the default (=docu)-publication share a certain
> «lenya» look - which aside from the logo and some round corners, is not
> the case ATM.
>
>
> Possible considerations/requisites for a design contest:
> --------------------------------------------------------
> For such a design contest, we will have to establish the description
> of the process, the jury, rules and timelines.
> But first of all we will have to ensure the feasibility of such a
> contest. 
>
> I think to provide a "design jumpstart package":
> - Adobe Photoshop and Adobe Fireworks templates with named layers for
> different gui screens that would have to be redesigned to give
> designers an easy start and to unify the process.
> - For the default pub (= docu pub): static html (and PS/ Fireworks)
> templates.
>
> To get a sense of the feasibility of a contest, I experimented with a
> GUI-redesign myself. I found that we can easily provide the required
> material for a redesign of the default publication and the docu
> publication. Redesigning the authoring gui is more difficult - it
> possibly involves some usability / workflow considerations. My
> personal opinion is, that since the current GUI is quite functional
> and has a good usability, we should evolve the design rather than
> designing it new from scratch - eventually exclude it from the design
> contest and do it ourselves.
>
>
> Discussion:
> -------------
>
> * What do you think of the general idea of redesigning lenya?
>
> * What do you think about the idea of a design contest? A critical
> question here is certainly, if we have enough resources to organize
> the contest and if lenya has sufficient visibility to attract web
> design pros to take part in the process.
>
> * Besides the looks of the GUI, what aspects of the user interface
> with respect to usability should be considered while redesigning (use
> of ajax, changes in the workflow process etc.)? The design contest
> might be restricted to the current screens but could include a section
> for suggestions about changes.
>
>
> Thanks a lot for your feedback!
>
> Jürgen Ragaller


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