Ciao Jürgen, hi Vik
Am 25.08.2008 um 11:31 schrieb Jürgen Ragaller:
Sorry, I am very late - but still want to express my agreement with
your proposal of a design contest, Jürgen!
There is also an issue that might be interesting in this context, see
below.
Hi Vik
Am 24.08.2008 um 18:34 schrieb Vik Tara:
* What do you think of the general idea of redesigning lenya?
+1
A redesign would be great - but a templating system similar to that
available in other cms systems would surely be better?
Whilst we can create xhtml templates or hack the lenya xsl files - it
would be much more elegant to be able to create a template and
import it
into the authoring environment.
There are good reasons to do the layouting only on the css side - and
not in xsl files. We have come to the conclusion that only then it's
possible to maintain lenya sites with different layouts at reasonable
costs. (We produce lenya sites in five different layouts at the
moment - the layouting mostly done in the xsl files. Changes in the
presentation of a certain object have to be applied at five different
places.)
We plan to use a xhtml-structure conforming to YAML (http://
www.yaml.de/en/home.html) as the interface between content
aggregation and the layouting of the publication. So the same xsl
files are used - though the publications have different layouts.
The same issue will arise when you implement different design
templates in lenya. (What I find an appealing idea BTW.) The document
publication already produces a certain xhtml structure. This should
be sufficient for the design contest. But when it comes to implement
different layout proposals, something like YAML provides certainly
more flexibility, and is better tested and documented.
[...]
For me establishing a new templating mechanism and redesigning
lenya are two different things.
My personal taste is, that templating using xslt is one of lenyas
great sides - a bit of a learning curve, but very flexible - and
done in a standard way.
If we'd like to attract designers we should provide a way to start
with the design without any programming or templating knowledge
(Photoshop, Fireworks templates).
I also think this is a good idea. That's how designers work, I guess.
If the xhtml is clean, pretty much everything can go into css - so
delivering a bit of xhtml should do it.
A fun way of doing a contest for the default publication could be a
publication where users can upload css files (and referenced
images) - a css zen garden lenya publication - but that might be
quite some work to setup.
Best regards
-michael
Michael Trindler
Informatikdienste
University of Zurich
A much more demanding task is redesigning the cms authoring gui.
Jürgen
null-oder-eins GmbH Zürich
web & graphic design
www.null-oder-eins.ch
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