aha. bingo.

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> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] PING time - what's TTL?
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> that's TTL for DNS records, not TTL for a Ping packet.  Two different
> things.
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> > http://www.jhsoft.com/help/df_ttl.htm
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> so I should consider this resource wrong then?
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matt Horn [mailto:matt.horn@;mediatelgroup.co.uk]
> > Sent: 14 November 2002 15:34
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] PING time - what's TTL?
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> >
> >
> >
> > That is Correct
> >
> > http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/97/42/index3a.html?tw=backend
> >
> > The Time To Live (TTL) field can be interesting. Every IP
> > packet that gets
> > sent out has a TTL field which is set to a relatively high
> > number (in this
> > case, ping packets get a TTL of 255). As the packet traverses
> > the network,
> > the TTL field gets decreased by one by each router it goes
> > through; when
> > the TTL drops to 0, the packet is discarded by the router.
> > The IP spec says
> > that the TTL should be set to 60 (though it's 255 for ping
> > packets). The
> > main purpose of this is so that a packet doesn't live forever on the
> > network and will eventually die when it is deemed "lost." But
> > for us, it
> > provides additional information. We can use the TTL to determine
> > approximately how many router hops the packet has gone
> > through. In this
> > case it's 255 minus N hops, where N is the TTL of the returning Echo
> > Replies. If the TTL field varies in successive pings, it
> > could indicate
> > that the successive reply packets are going via different
> > routes, which
> > isn't a great thing.
> >
> >
> > look at the time variable
> >
> >
> > The time field is an indication of the round-trip time to get
> > a packet to
> > the remote host. The reply is measured in milliseconds. In
> > general, it's
> > best if round-trip times are under 200 milliseconds. The time
> > it takes a
> > packet to reach its destination is called latency. If you 
> see a large
> > variance in the round-trip times (which is called "jitter"),
> > you are going
> > to see poor performance talking to the host. However, a
> > couple of laggards
> > in a large sample (50 to 100) is no cause for worry.
> >
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > At 15:21 14/11/2002, you wrote:
> > >erm...
> > >
> > >Not in my book it isn't.
> > >
> > >It's the maximum number of routers it will be passed through
> > before it
> > >stops being passed on.
> > >
> > >There's more info on it here:
> > >
> > >http://www.tru64unix.compaq.com/docs/base_doc/DOCUMENTATION/V
> > 50A_HTML/MA
> > >N/MAN8/0288____.HTM
> > >
> > >Each time a packet goes through a router it's ttl gets decremented.
> > >
> > >If it has a high ttl then it's not been through many
> > routers. If it has
> > >a low ttl it will have been through more.
> > >
> > >The problem is knowing what the starting value was.
> > >
> > >I think it's 128 on windows.
> > >
> > >Whether it's high or low won't necessarily tell you anything
> > about the
> > >speed of a connection, but a lower number will often 
> correspond to a
> > >slower connection because of all the routers each packet has to go
> > >through.
> > >
> > >Spike
> > >
> > >Stephen Milligan
> > >Team Macromedia - ColdFusion
> > >Co-author 'Reality Macromedia ColdFusion MX: Intranets and Content
> > >Management'
> > >http://spikefu.blogspot.com
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Rich Wild [mailto:r.wild@;e-mango.com]
> > > > Sent: 14 November 2002 16:12
> > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] PING time - what's TTL?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > TTL = Time To Live
> > > >
> > > > Higher number is slower (its number of seconds)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Ross Williams [mailto:webmaster@;rawnet.com]
> > > > > Sent: 14 November 2002 15:12
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> > > > > Subject: [ cf-dev ] PING time - what's TTL?
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> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm trying to guage the response time between two boxes -
> > > > > what does TTL
> > > > > mean when returned from a ping? Does a high number mean
> > faster or
> > > > > slower?
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