oh for god sake.
You old women.
Put your blankets over your knees and go back to radio.

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Horn [mailto:matt.horn@;mediatelgroup.co.uk]
Sent: 15 November 2002 10:25
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CF5 to MX upgrade


I agree totally!

HTTP = HyperTEXT Transfer Protocol

it was never meant to carry images or Rich media files or anything like that
it was meant to carry Text

Matt




At 10:19 15/11/2002, you wrote:
>Some people here know my views on web page design and if I had my way we'd
>all be viewing plain text. It's not necessarily Flash that is the problem
>(although its very name has implications), but once people get their hands
>on Rich Media they seem to become dyslexic, autistic or simply a failed
fine
>art student. There's enough designers who think they're developers without
>developers thinking they're designers. I could go on forever, but without a
>few pints to dumb your senses, you probably won't want to hear.
>
>Paolo
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
>[mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com]
>Sent: 15 November 2002 09:55
>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CF5 to MX upgrade
>
>
>Why wouldnt you touch Flash on an ecommerce site?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Paolo Piponi [mailto:paolo@;epoq.co.uk]
>Sent: 15 November 2002 09:57
>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CF5 to MX upgrade
>
>
>I won't touch Dreamweaver and I will never touch Flash or its ilk on an
>ecommerce site. Other than that what the hell is an RIA? Something that
>requires a rich bandwidth?
>
>Paolo
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Colm Brazel [mailto:c.brazel@;ntlworld.ie]
>Sent: 14 November 2002 17:15
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CF5 to MX upgrade
>
>
> >>How many of us are sticking to CF5 and are perfectly happy with it? How
>many
>felt they had to upgrade and why?
>
>
>
>On a linux box I`m happy enough with CF5 but would put MX on there for the
>extra $500 if I got business to warrant this (and more of these boxes as
>well), but locally you can'y beat MX Studio and MX Server. MX is biggest
>upgrade of  Cf Server since ver1. Basically you cant work with RIA without
>it, there's plenty of work there to get a proper handle on this stuff, Rich
>Internet Applications using webservices, cfc's and Flash remoting and you
>need MX to work properly with this stuff. ...
>
>rgds
>
>Colm
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Paolo Piponi [mailto:paolo@;epoq.co.uk]
>Sent: 14 November 2002 16:47
>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CF5 to MX upgrade
>
>
>Tell me more. I don't want to, but I feel pressure to upgrade, even though
>there is no specific need to.
>
>How many of us are sticking to CF5 and are perfectly happy with it? How
many
>felt they had to upgrade and why?
>
>Paolo
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mark Smyth [mailto:mark.smyth@;systemsunion.net]
>Sent: 14 November 2002 16:26
>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CF5 to MX upgrade
>
>
>i had loadds of problems, would recommed it at the moment
>
>we've delayed all upgrades of live sites until some of the problems are
>resolved
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Giles Roadnight [mailto:giles.roadnight@;goldcockerelbooks.co.uk]
>Sent: 14 November 2002 16:28
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CF5 to MX upgrade
>
>
>I had a complete nightmare. I was trying to upgrade on IIS but it kept
>trying to install on the built in stand alone server. In the end I had
>to install it on the stand alone, run the batch file to switch it over
>to IIS then change some variable as I run a server with virtual sites.
>Can't remember what this setting is or where but I am sure somebody else
>will let you know.
>
>It took me all day to do the upgrade and the server was down for all
>that time.
>
>
>Giles Roadnight
>http://giles.roadnight.name
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Steve Martin [mailto:steve.martin@;sequence.co.uk]
>Sent: 14 November 2002 16:09
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CF5 to MX upgrade
>
>I trapped my finger in the server room door.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mark Skeggs [mailto:mark.skeggs@;altour.co.uk]
>Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 4:01 PM
>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CF5 to MX upgrade
>
>
>I came in at the weekend to upgrade ours a while ago.....
>
>Just when I thought every thing was done I went to leave and my car had
>been
>nicked
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Paolo Piponi [mailto:paolo@;epoq.co.uk]
>Sent: 14 November 2002 16:04
>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>Subject: [ cf-dev ] CF5 to MX upgrade
>
>
>Can someone give me some nightmare stories so I know the worst that can
>happen with upgrades on live websites.
>
>Paolo
>
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