It certainly does seem to have created a lot of misunderstanding. I'll give Ben a good talking to next time I see him ;-)
Spike Stephen Milligan Team Macromedia - ColdFusion Co-author 'Reality Macromedia ColdFusion MX: Intranets and Content Management' http://spikefu.blogspot.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 12 December 2002 11:57 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFMX Updater 2 > > > Which I could sell to the CF community for a vast profit. ;-) > > OK, point conceded, but the BF post and general hype was > ambiguous as is proven by the confusion amongst the developer > community. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: 12 December 2002 10:53 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFMX Updater 2 > > > > > > That would be nice, but then again it would probably take about 10 > > minutes to write your own. > > > > hmmm... > > > > Spike > > > > Stephen Milligan > > Team Macromedia - ColdFusion > > Co-author 'Reality Macromedia ColdFusion MX: Intranets and Content > > Management' http://spikefu.blogspot.com > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Steve Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: 12 December 2002 11:45 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFMX Updater 2 > > > > > > > > > OK, we're clear now. I take your point with not wanting CF > > > d/ling stuff but it would be nice if it could be configured > > > in a similar way to Win Update in that it could either a) > > > notify you of available updates. b) d/l updates and not > > > install. c) d/l and install updates at a predetermined time. > > > I don't see any problem with this provided the admin has the > > > ability to choose to not use it and simply d/l the updates > > > manually should they so wish. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: 12 December 2002 10:38 > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFMX Updater 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah, > > > > > > > > I see what you're getting at. > > > > > > > > To hell with that. > > > > > > > > I don't want my CFMX server automatically downloading > > upgrades and > > > > patches on a live site. > > > > > > > > Imagine the problems that could cause. > > > > > > > > Microsoft may have decided to follow that route, but then > > > again they > > > > have such a monopoly in the market that they can do pretty > > > much what > > > > they like without worrying about losing customers to a rival. > > > > Macromedia are not in such a privileged position, so I > > > doubt they'd do > > > > it. > > > > > > > > my 2p > > > > > > > > Spike > > > > > > > > Stephen Milligan > > > > Team Macromedia - ColdFusion > > > > Co-author 'Reality Macromedia ColdFusion MX: Intranets > > and Content > > > > Management' http://spikefu.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Steve Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: 12 December 2002 11:33 > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFMX Updater 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quite. > > > > > I read the following post from guru a while back: > > > > > > > > > > "Yes, an update for CFMX is on the way. No, it is not a full > > > > > service-pack, rather, it is a new update mechanism that will > > > > > allow patches or fixes to be applied safely and easily. This > > > > > will not be a one time update, the intent is to > provide a means > > > > > by which to get important updates and fixes to customers as > > > > > quickly as possible whenever the need arises. > > > > > > > > > > Along with the updater will be an initial set of > updates. We're > > > > > still doing some testing, so no final details yet, but as an > > > > > FYI, here is some of what is included in the > > first update:" > > > > > > > > > > Which seems to imply that is an updater in the windows update > > > > > vein by virtue of "new update mechanism". Oh well, > can't blame > > > > > the author, he only works for MM and has written most > of the CF > > > > > books on the planet. ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > Sent: 12 December 2002 10:27 > > > > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > > > > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFMX Updater 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thats why its confusing that MM have called it an > > > updater. I think > > > > > > a lot of people (including myself) were under that > > > misapprehension > > > > > > because of it > > > > > > being called an updater. > > > > > > > > > > > > Funny how much confusion that little decision to name > > > it something > > > > > > other than 'service pack' has caused. You have to ask > > > yourself why > > > > > > really don't > > > > > > you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: Steve Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > Sent: 12 December 2002 10:24 > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFMX Updater 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, soz. I think I must have missed something. I though > > > > > > > (mistakenly, obviously) that the updater was a > > facility that > > > > > > > would ensure that all service releases were installed in a > > > > > > > similar manner to how windows update works for > > windoze. I'll > > > > > > > wake up now. ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > Sent: 12 December 2002 10:17 > > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFMX Updater 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <confused mode="on"> > > > > > > > > Did you mean to say that Updater 2 should take care of > > > > > installing > > > > > > > > updater 1? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How could updater 1 take care of installing > updater 2 when > > > > > > > it came out > > > > > > > > about 6 weeks before updater 2 existed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You probably won't see updater 2 service release > > 1, but you > > > > > > > might see > > > > > > > > updater 3. > > > > > > > > </confused> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stephen Milligan > > > > > > > > Team Macromedia - ColdFusion > > > > > > > > Co-author 'Reality Macromedia ColdFusion MX: Intranets > > > > > and Content > > > > > > > > Management' http://spikefu.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > From: Steve Martin > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > > Sent: 12 December 2002 11:13 > > > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFMX Updater 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <cynicism mode="on"> > > > > > > > > > It is laughable however that one has to install > > > updater 2. > > > > > > > > > You would have thought that updater 1 would > > take care of > > > > > > > > > installing updater 2, and so on. Do you think > we'll see > > > > > > > > > updater 2 service release 1 in the coming weeks? ;-) > > > > > > </cynicism> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > > From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > > > Sent: 12 December 2002 10:07 > > > > > > > > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFMX Updater 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > see this thread: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.funjunkie.co.uk/link.cfm?BQEDBGYN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think its just semantics really. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > > > From: Aidan Whitehall > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: 12 December 2002 09:52 > > > > > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFMX Updater 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the heads-up. Just curious > about this... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "The ColdFusion MX Updater replaces service > > packs, and > > > > > > > > > will be the > > > > > > > > > > > primary vehicle for delivering bug fixes, security > > > > > > > > > patches, and hot > > > > > > > > > > > fixes to ColdFusion users. The Updater will be > > > > > > > > > periodically enhanced > > > > > > > > > > > to include the cumulative collection of all > > > tested fixes > > > > > > > > > available > > > > > > > > > > > for ColdFusion MX." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The updater contains bug fixes, like a service > > > > > > pack, and it's > > > > > > > > > > > cumulative, like a service pack. So is the > > > updater just > > > > > > > > > another name > > > > > > > > > > > for a service pack? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > Aidan Whitehall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Macromedia > > > > > > > > > > > ColdFusion Developer Fairbanks > > Environmental Ltd +44 > > > > > > > > > > > (0)1695 51775 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > __________ > > > > > > > > > > > This e-mail has been scanned for all > viruses by Star > > > > > > > > > Internet. The > > > > > > > > > > > service is powered by MessageLabs. 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