OK, we're clear now. I take your point with not wanting CF d/ling stuff but it would 
be nice if it could be configured in a similar way to Win Update in that it could 
either a) notify you of available updates. b) d/l updates and not install. c) d/l and 
install updates at a predetermined time. I don't see any problem with this provided 
the admin has the ability to choose to not use it and simply d/l the updates manually 
should they so wish.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 12 December 2002 10:38
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFMX Updater 2
> 
> 
> Ah,
> 
> I see what you're getting at.
> 
> To hell with that.
> 
> I don't want my CFMX server automatically downloading upgrades and
> patches on a live site.
> 
> Imagine the problems that could cause.
> 
> Microsoft may have decided to follow that route, but then again they
> have such a monopoly in the market that they can do pretty much what
> they like without worrying about losing customers to a rival. 
> Macromedia
> are not in such a privileged position, so I doubt they'd do it.
> 
> my 2p
> 
> Spike
> 
> Stephen Milligan
> Team Macromedia - ColdFusion
> Co-author 'Reality Macromedia ColdFusion MX: Intranets and Content
> Management'
> http://spikefu.blogspot.com
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: 12 December 2002 11:33
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFMX Updater 2
> > 
> > 
> > Quite.
> > I read the following post from guru a while back:
> > 
> > "Yes, an update for CFMX is on the way. No, it is not a full 
> > service-pack, rather, it is a new update mechanism that will 
> > allow patches or fixes to be applied safely and easily. This 
> > will not be a one time update, the intent is to provide a 
> > means by which to get important updates and fixes to 
> > customers as quickly as possible whenever the need arises. 
> > 
> > Along with the updater will be an initial set of updates. 
> > We're still doing some testing, so no final details yet, but 
> > as an FYI, here is some of what is included in the first update:"
> > 
> > Which seems to imply that is an updater in the windows update 
> > vein by virtue of "new update mechanism". Oh well, can't 
> > blame the author, he only works for MM and has written most 
> > of the CF books on the planet.  ;-)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 12 December 2002 10:27
> > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFMX Updater 2
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thats why its confusing that MM have called it an updater. I
> > > think a lot of
> > > people (including myself) were under that misapprehension 
> > > because of it
> > > being called an updater.
> > > 
> > > Funny how much confusion that little decision to name it
> > > something other
> > > than 'service pack' has caused. You have to ask yourself why 
> > > really don't
> > > you?
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Steve Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: 12 December 2002 10:24
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFMX Updater 2
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Yeah, soz. I think I must have missed something. I though
> > > > (mistakenly, obviously) that the updater was a facility that 
> > > > would ensure that all service releases were installed in a 
> > > > similar manner to how windows update works for windoze. I'll 
> > > > wake up now.  ;-)
> > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Spike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: 12 December 2002 10:17
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFMX Updater 2
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > <confused mode="on">
> > > > > Did you mean to say that Updater 2 should take care of 
> > installing 
> > > > > updater 1?
> > > > > 
> > > > > How could updater 1 take care of installing updater 2 when
> > > > it came out
> > > > > about 6 weeks before updater 2 existed?
> > > > > 
> > > > > You probably won't see updater 2 service release 1, but you
> > > > might see
> > > > > updater 3.
> > > > > </confused>
> > > > > 
> > > > > Stephen Milligan
> > > > > Team Macromedia - ColdFusion
> > > > > Co-author 'Reality Macromedia ColdFusion MX: Intranets 
> > and Content 
> > > > > Management' http://spikefu.blogspot.com
> > > > > 
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Steve Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: 12 December 2002 11:13
> > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFMX Updater 2
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > <cynicism mode="on">
> > > > > > It is laughable however that one has to install updater 2.
> > > > > > You would have thought that updater 1 would take care of 
> > > > > > installing updater 2, and so on. Do you think we'll see 
> > > > > > updater 2 service release 1 in the coming weeks?  ;-) 
> > > </cynicism>
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Rich Wild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > Sent: 12 December 2002 10:07
> > > > > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFMX Updater 2
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > see this thread:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > http://www.funjunkie.co.uk/link.cfm?BQEDBGYN
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I think its just semantics really.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Aidan Whitehall
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > > Sent: 12 December 2002 09:52
> > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CFMX Updater 2
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Thanks for the heads-up. Just curious about this...
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > "The ColdFusion MX Updater replaces service packs, and
> > > > > > will be the
> > > > > > > > primary vehicle for delivering bug fixes, security
> > > > > > patches, and hot
> > > > > > > > fixes to ColdFusion users. The Updater will be
> > > > > > periodically enhanced
> > > > > > > > to include the cumulative collection of all tested fixes
> > > > > > available
> > > > > > > > for ColdFusion MX."
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > The updater contains bug fixes, like a service
> > > pack, and it's
> > > > > > > > cumulative, like a service pack. So is the updater just
> > > > > > another name
> > > > > > > > for a service pack?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
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