Yeah, I have to say I agree with most of that as I went to a lot of the
presentations with Rich.  One of the ones that was a little heavy, was the
maps and gis in flash...  he ran out of time on that, and so I think I
missed the point of the presentation...  still a little confused, but gained
some ideas for other things from this.

Also, Al Manning's cf-content tips was pretty good...  it again gave me some
nice ideas about doing things another way, but this would be dependent on
the client.

Another interesting one was the one on developing for PDA/Smartphones...
not sure if I'll ever do anything like this in the future, but a good
grounding if I ever need to!

Anyway, a great conference guys, probably couldn't have gone any better!:)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rich Wild" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] cf_Europe


> > I thought it was good but too Flash based.
> >
> > Maybe next year they should change the name to MM Europe
> > instead of CF Europe.
>
> true, and like a lot of developers there I have a lot of reservations on
the
> current viability of RIAs (and yes I've developed a few), but it seems
that
> this is what MM is pushing at the moment, so I was kind of expecting it.
An
> idea I really did like though was Philipp Cielen's little 'entire online
> store in a flash banner' app. Neat thinking.
>
> There should have been a LOT more CFC talks focusing on why we should be
> using CFCs, as most of the discussions about them went along the lines of
> "Here they are in CFMX, start using them cos they're great, and cos then
you
> can integrate flash really easily". I would have liked to have seen more
> discussion about the intricacies of CFCs and CFIMPORT etc...
>
> Having said that, Benoit's talk on MVC and Simon Slooten's CFCs *were*
great
> talks, as was Simon Horwith's Data File Access API.
>
> Charlie's talk on CFMX Hidden Gems should really have been "Go read my
> weblog, and here's a few hidden books of mine you should buy, and by the
> way, have you heard about my new book?". I expected to see him busking for
a
> few extra coins on my way to the station.
>
> Its a pity that Aral Balkan's talk on Firefly was kind of obliterated by
Ben
> Forta's keynote.
>
> Its also a pity that Ektron chose to try and sell us their ASP written CMS
> products at a CF conference.
>
> But that aside, it was great to meet up with people and put names to
faces,
> and generally swap coding tips and experiences etc. Invaluable really.
>
> Rich
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Allan Cliff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 02 June 2003 09:29
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [ cf-dev ] Re: [cfmail] Re: [ cf-dev ] cf_Europe
> >
> >
> > Good organisation and all that.
> >
> > I thought it was good but too Flash based.
> >
> > Maybe next year they should change the name to MM Europe
> > instead of CF Europe.
> >
> > In my opinion there should have been more CFC talks and CFMX
> > in general.
> >
> > Good talks from Allen Manning, Andy Hindle, Charlie Arehart
> > and Simon Slooten.
> > Although I can't comment on the ones I didn't see.
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: Paddy McKay
> >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 10:18 AM
> >   Subject: [cfmail] Re: [ cf-dev ] cf_Europe
> >
> >
> >   I'll second that, and to those that didn't make it, make
> > sure you do next
> >   year. I found it was well worth the 4am start on Thursday
> > to get the 6am
> >   flight out of Glasgow to hear Ben Forta's keynote, plus all
> > the other stuff.
> >
> >   Thanks to all the organisers for a great event.
> >
> >   paddy
> >
> >
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: "Rich Wild" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >   To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >   Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 8:53 AM
> >   Subject: [ cf-dev ] cf_Europe
> >
> >
> >   > Just like to say thanks to Lucas, Nik and Stephen for
> > running around
> >   > CF_Europe like headless chickens making sure that
> > everything went really
> >   > smoothly.
> >   >
> >   > Good event fellas, thanks for taking the time to organise it!
> >   >
> >   > Rich
> >   >
> >   >
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