Thanks guys for all the comments and feedback.

Glad to hear that all the hard work was well worth it! :)

Here's to next year and MX_Europe!!


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Douglas Humphris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 10:25 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] cf_Europe
> 
> 
> CF_EUROPE was well worth the trip from Edinburgh, thanks 
> guys. There was a good selection of presentations to attend, 
> but I also thought there could have been more pure CF stuff 
> like the "CFCONTENT tricks". I agree with Allan, MX_EUROPE 
> would be a more appropriate title. Is there an equivalent 
> Flash conf. that it could be merged with? Then there wouldn't 
> be a need to fill the CF agenda with so much Flash stuff.
> 
> Looking forward to next year.
> 
> Douglas
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 02 June 2003 10:01
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] cf_Europe
> 
> 
> Yeah, I have to say I agree with most of that as I went to a 
> lot of the
> presentations with Rich.  One of the ones that was a little 
> heavy, was the
> maps and gis in flash...  he ran out of time on that, and so I think I
> missed the point of the presentation...  still a little 
> confused, but gained
> some ideas for other things from this.
> 
> Also, Al Manning's cf-content tips was pretty good...  it 
> again gave me some
> nice ideas about doing things another way, but this would be 
> dependent on
> the client.
> 
> Another interesting one was the one on developing for 
> PDA/Smartphones...
> not sure if I'll ever do anything like this in the future, but a good
> grounding if I ever need to!
> 
> Anyway, a great conference guys, probably couldn't have gone 
> any better!:)
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rich Wild" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:42 AM
> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] cf_Europe
> 
> 
> > > I thought it was good but too Flash based.
> > >
> > > Maybe next year they should change the name to MM Europe
> > > instead of CF Europe.
> >
> > true, and like a lot of developers there I have a lot of 
> reservations on
> the
> > current viability of RIAs (and yes I've developed a few), 
> but it seems
> that
> > this is what MM is pushing at the moment, so I was kind of 
> expecting it.
> An
> > idea I really did like though was Philipp Cielen's little 
> 'entire online
> > store in a flash banner' app. Neat thinking.
> >
> > There should have been a LOT more CFC talks focusing on why 
> we should be
> > using CFCs, as most of the discussions about them went 
> along the lines of
> > "Here they are in CFMX, start using them cos they're great, 
> and cos then
> you
> > can integrate flash really easily". I would have liked to 
> have seen more
> > discussion about the intricacies of CFCs and CFIMPORT etc...
> >
> > Having said that, Benoit's talk on MVC and Simon Slooten's 
> CFCs *were*
> great
> > talks, as was Simon Horwith's Data File Access API.
> >
> > Charlie's talk on CFMX Hidden Gems should really have been 
> "Go read my
> > weblog, and here's a few hidden books of mine you should 
> buy, and by the
> > way, have you heard about my new book?". I expected to see 
> him busking for
> a
> > few extra coins on my way to the station.
> >
> > Its a pity that Aral Balkan's talk on Firefly was kind of 
> obliterated by
> Ben
> > Forta's keynote.
> >
> > Its also a pity that Ektron chose to try and sell us their 
> ASP written CMS
> > products at a CF conference.
> >
> > But that aside, it was great to meet up with people and put names to
> faces,
> > and generally swap coding tips and experiences etc. 
> Invaluable really.
> >
> > Rich
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Allan Cliff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 02 June 2003 09:29
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [ cf-dev ] Re: [cfmail] Re: [ cf-dev ] cf_Europe
> > >
> > >
> > > Good organisation and all that.
> > >
> > > I thought it was good but too Flash based.
> > >
> > > Maybe next year they should change the name to MM Europe
> > > instead of CF Europe.
> > >
> > > In my opinion there should have been more CFC talks and CFMX
> > > in general.
> > >
> > > Good talks from Allen Manning, Andy Hindle, Charlie Arehart
> > > and Simon Slooten.
> > > Although I can't comment on the ones I didn't see.
> > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >   From: Paddy McKay
> > >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >   Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 10:18 AM
> > >   Subject: [cfmail] Re: [ cf-dev ] cf_Europe
> > >
> > >
> > >   I'll second that, and to those that didn't make it, make
> > > sure you do next
> > >   year. I found it was well worth the 4am start on Thursday
> > > to get the 6am
> > >   flight out of Glasgow to hear Ben Forta's keynote, plus all
> > > the other stuff.
> > >
> > >   Thanks to all the organisers for a great event.
> > >
> > >   paddy
> > >
> > >
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >   From: "Rich Wild" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >   To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >   Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 8:53 AM
> > >   Subject: [ cf-dev ] cf_Europe
> > >
> > >
> > >   > Just like to say thanks to Lucas, Nik and Stephen for
> > > running around
> > >   > CF_Europe like headless chickens making sure that
> > > everything went really
> > >   > smoothly.
> > >   >
> > >   > Good event fellas, thanks for taking the time to organise it!
> > >   >
> > >   > Rich
> > >   >
> > >   >
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