I find your lack of faith disturbing.
:)

- Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Horn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 13 January 2004 09:27
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Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] CF Salaries


Joning the Dark Side eh?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Harrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 11:26 AM
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CF Salaries


I'm moving on to C#.

- Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Harper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 13 January 2004 09:20
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CF Salaries


Hence my term Scripting, meaning jsp, asp, php , etc.....

However now cf is making the java bridge, I believe the whole community will
gain more credibility

-----Original Message-----
From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 12 January 2004 17:33
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CF Salaries


Lets not diss CF here... It's not rocket science to do ASP, PHP or CFML.
CFML just gets tagged as SIMPLE because it is tag based and thus similar to
HTML. But Since CFMX it isn't quite such the case since you need to be a bit
more programmer savvy to do CFC's and there is a bit of a JAVA requirmeent
despite whatever MM say.

Anyone can use webmonkey or pickup a book, learn the language and call
themselves a developer in whatever they like. It's a different kettle of
fish to write good code, create good apps, and to be able to teach those
skills to other people.

Being able to use a handful of the basic CFML tags is simple yes,
understanding coldfusion and what all the tags and functions do and how best
to implement/use them and in what siutations is no different than any of the
other languages. I have seen worse shit written in CF than I have in ASP.

Russ

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven Harper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 12 January 2004 15:46
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] CF Salaries
>
>
> As always the Jobs that require CF like skills (scripting)
> always suffer.
>
> As you guys know its not rocket science to make a CFM page.
> What is difficult is writing Code that is : Organised /
> Readable & Re-usable.
>
> Mostly, when hiring we look for other Important skills, which
> any person off the street could not pick up easily (&
> therefore blag an interview) such as Java, OOP, Unix (simple
> tasks), SQL.
>
> These skills tend to separate the coders that have picked up
> CFM as they go along & those who are true professional coders.
>
> Steven Harper
> Senior Applications Developer
> Freeserve.com PLC
>
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