Snake, I understand, but it doesn't solve problems of the UK companies.
From the state point of view, it is much cheaper to "buy" in a various ways, providing temporary working permits, permanent legal statuses, etc. to trained/educated people then to grow and train own. As for telecomuters - it is pure gain, because telecommuter is living abroad and do not utilize state "services" like police, health care, social secure, etc. in the same time working for that country instead of native country. I hope you understand me. Saturday, June 5, 2004, 8:08:34 PM, you wrote: Snake> You will find americans and English are very different. Snake> Americans are generally happy to employ foreigners because they know all the Snake> best talent comes from abroad, especially Europe. Snake> The English are not so keen to employ foreigners, especially when they do Snake> not live in the UK to begin with, there is also a lot of prejudice over Snake> here. Snake> You also have to remember that a lot of the imported talent comes from the Snake> UK. For example the well known special effects company "Industrial light and Snake> magic" were a british company. Snake> Russ >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Alex Puritche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 05 June 2004 15:56 >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re[2]: [ cf-dev ] The chicken or the egg >> >> >> Snake, >> >> you are right. i'm foreigner, telecommuter. Americans have no major >> problems hiring me (except maybe occasional misunderstandings >> occurring as result of my bad English), thus it >> seems like my "foreignness" is not a big problem. >> >> >> Saturday, June 5, 2004, 5:03:56 PM, you wrote: >> >> Snake> Well your experience is not neccisarily going to define the UK >> Snake> situation. As your semmingly a foreigner and I >> presume not even >> Snake> living in the UK. >> >> Snake> Russ >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Alex Puritche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Sent: 05 June 2004 14:21 >> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] The chicken or the egg >> >> >> >> >> >> hi folks, >> >> >> >> sorry for bringing this topic up. i was constantly >> seeking for UK >> >> employer and i wasn't able to find any of during 5 >> years. so it >> >> seems to me sort of strange that it is difficult for UK >> employer to >> >> find good CF developer. >> >> >> >> >> >> Wednesday, May 26, 2004, 11:00:54 PM, you wrote: >> >> >> >> Ellwood> I have heard many discussions on this forum about >> the lackof >> >> Ellwood> Coldfusion jobs and whether we should >> >> retrain in ASP >> >> Ellwood> and the like. My recentexperience has shown me an >> >> alternative >> >> Ellwood> viewpoint. My current contract is for anemployer who >> >> is in the >> >> Ellwood> midst of making the decision to move from CF to >> .NET andhis >> >> Ellwood> main reason is that he cant get any Coldfusion >> programmers. >> >> Ellwood> There is avirtual glut of asp programmers leaving >> University >> >> Ellwood> and a great source of thevaluable resource he needs. >> >> So which >> >> Ellwood> came first, the lack of jobs or the lackof programmers? >> >> >> >> Ellwood> >> >> >> >> Ellwood> Ellis C Wood BSc >> >> >> >> Ellwood> Ellwood Web Solutions >> >> >> >> Ellwood> >> >> >> >> Ellwood> T: 01623 459973 >> >> >> >> Ellwood> E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Ellwood> W: http://www.ellwoodwebsolutions.co.uk >> >> >> >> Ellwood> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Regards, >> >> Alex mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at >> >> http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ >> >> Archive: >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ >> >> >> >> CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- >> >> *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: >> >> *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* >> >> *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow >> >> provided by proworkflow.com* >> >> *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists >> >> hosted by gradwell.com* >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> >> Snake> -- >> Snake> These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at >> Snake> http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ >> Snake> Archive: >> Snake> http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ >> >> Snake> CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- >> Snake> *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: >> *ActivePDF >> Snake> provided by activepdf.com* >> Snake> *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: >> *ProWorkFlow provided >> Snake> by proworkflow.com* >> Snake> *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: >> *Lists hosted >> Snake> by gradwell.com* >> >> Snake> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Alex mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> -- >> These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at >> http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ >> Archive: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ >> >> CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- >> *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: >> *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* >> *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow >> provided by proworkflow.com* >> *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists >> hosted by gradwell.com* >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Snake> -- Snake> These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum Snake> at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Snake> Archive: Snake> http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Snake> CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- Snake> *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: Snake> *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* Snake> *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow Snake> provided by proworkflow.com* Snake> *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: Snake> *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* Snake> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Regards, Alex mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
