Now that this thread has been going for a while I shall throw in my two peneth. I have been Telecommuting for the past 7-8 months and it has worked great for me but there has to be flexibility on both sides. In particular, I must be prepared to travel to the client at least once a fortnight, probably once a week to provide updates, talk over concepts, brain storm etc to ensure I am producing the proper product. This is usually overcome by producing detailed specs in FliP (wireframes, etc).
And so what if I do a job in 4 hours when you have paid me for 8. If you were happy to accept the quote then you should be happy to pay it (generally speaking, If I do overestimate a job by a vast amount I WILL give this back to the client, or part of it anyway ;) but I often do a lot of free work before and after the project in the form of scoping, implementation, tweaks and improvements. I have now been contracted at the client site which seriously disrupts my family life as it means I am now doing 12 hour days (including commuting 3-4 hours a day) and I am whacked out but the job would be impossible to do from home so they reimburse me with a hefty wage. Like I say, this type of work requires trust on both sides so I can understand if there is a certain amount of suspicion. Its all about proving your ability to do the work and this comes from portfolio's and references and in my case a busy agency backing me up. Ellis C Wood BSc Ellwood Web Solutions T: 01623 459973 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.ellwoodwebsolutions.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Alex Puritche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 June 2004 15:48 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] RE: The chicken or the egg Snake, I believe that you know what term "credit history" mean. Applying it to IT - employer can assume that if I successfully worked for 5 companies then I probably will work OK for 6th too. Telecommuters can be managed only if you are 10 finger keyboards typist. This is primary skill needed for managing telecommuters, i'm not kidding. As for time management - contact me off list, i will send you link to a program which solves this problem. In general, it isn't a problem to manage overseas stuff once you dug in, the problem is to want to try it. Sunday, June 6, 2004, 12:19:42 PM, you wrote: Snake> It's not pure gain, it's a pain in the ass. Snake> Telecommuters cannot be managed, Snake> monitored, checked on. Snake> I would have no idea if your doing any work, no idea what hours your Snake> working, no idea if your charging me for 8 hours per day but only working 4 Snake> etc. Snake> I would not employ a full-time telecommuter for my company unless I already Snake> knew them and knew their ability to work remotely and be reliable. And then Snake> I would expect them to be in the same country so they can come to meetings Snake> etc. Snake> Russ >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Alex Puritche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 05 June 2004 18:46 >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re[4]: [ cf-dev ] The chicken or the egg >> >> >> Snake, >> >> I understand, but it doesn't solve problems of the UK companies. >> >> From the state point of view, it is much cheaper to "buy" in >> a various ways, providing temporary working permits, >> permanent legal statuses, etc. to trained/educated people >> then to grow and train own. >> >> As for telecomuters - it is pure gain, because telecommuter >> is living abroad and do not utilize state "services" like >> police, health care, social secure, etc. in the same time >> working for that country instead of native country. >> >> I hope you understand me. -- Regards, Alex mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
