-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Now, I've a question, as qt5-webengine is based in Chromium, is it "Googled"? Because in that case it'd be a security flaw I think.
El 09/05/17 a las 13:10, Nicolás A. Ortega escribió: > On Tue, May 09, 2017 at 12:44:07PM -0300, Megver83 wrote: >> >> I agree, there aren't proves yet >> > > And there haven't been for the past few months since this has > started. I think it's high time we take at least qt5-webengine of > the blacklist. Once someone can actually prove something (which in > the past *few months* no one has managed to do) then it can go back > on the blacklist as we reevaluate evidence. Until then, any > discussion on what to do with 'non-free' chromium is just > pointless. > >> El 09/05/17 a las 12:40, Nicolás A. Ortega escribió: >>> On Tue, May 09, 2017 at 11:55:09AM -0300, Megver83 wrote: >>>> Is this really an internal problem of Parabola? I say this >>>> because, what if other distros adopt qt5-webengine? then it >>>> will become a bigger problem not only for us, but for the >>>> other free distros too. Maybe we should discuss this with the >>>> FSF and/or the GNU Project, they could fork >>>> Chromium/Iridium/Ungoogled-chromium like they did with Icecat >>>> (like creating an "Icemium"). >>>> >>> >>> Or Ungoogled-Chromium/Iridium could attempt to join the GNU >>> project. >>> >>>> For now, I think the best thing would be to blacklist the >>>> packages that depend on webengine, after all, it is nonfree, >>>> and we block a lot of free software that depends or works >>>> only with nonfree packages (with no [libre] replacement). >>> >>> I would like to ask, what exactly is non-free about >>> qt5-webengine? The only argument I've heard so far is that it >>> uses Chromium, yet there is still no real dirt on Chromium >>> being non-free. Unless someone can start pointing out specific >>> files in qt5-webengine's source/dependencies that are non-free >>> I would propose taking it off the blacklist. This has been >>> going on for way too long and we're getting ahead of ourselves. >>> First you make it evident that it is non-free *then* you begin >>> discussion on how to deal with it. This is putting the cart in >>> front of the ox. If someone is suspected of murder then you do >>> not start thinking about what their sentence should be until >>> they have been convicted. Let's please be at least a little bit >>> skeptical of how so much effort has been going in to >>> blacklisting chromium and anything using it but absolutely no >>> valid evidence is anywhere to be found. >>> >>> I will say as I have in a previous e-mail (and something I >>> mentioned in the Quarantine Process proposal that seems to >>> have been lost in the huge donation issue bruhaha) that this >>> information should all be concentrated in *one place* that is >>> easily accessible for everyone to see and should be easily >>> edited in the case that certain sources are wrong (as I have >>> seen them to be in this enormous mess we've been in for months >>> now). >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ Dev mailing >>> list [email protected] >>> https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev >>> >> >> - -- SIP: [email protected] XMPP: [email protected] Tox: >> [email protected] GPG: 0x227CA7C556B2BA78 GNUSocial: >> @[email protected] Diaspora*: David P. (same XMPP ID) >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEbbnEtPDYwNxDLPbkInynxVayungFAlkR48QACgkQInynxVay >> unjaUwf+K+YW+lky9QW4LrNvQf1wbtqismShIRxPo1288gGGUsYifCSw32Fnx2QP >> 85ert6lICFzj5MJOEckks2eDSYCIg0FUha/UVVXGvKSdinjf/BymGltJ9s1ksJGp >> IPcT1RXDE2Ake36+y7m6RYQd8KyaoOCO+8YdvE/6SWeV0D1xx2GNuCEgRihYyzpb >> ahgIXP15X5mrV5oCLhrSNDMs6qoZ1HA6iKD1XCZvre5BCmWrReBIXz8dEQ8Ly/km >> TOq1TD8SyXL+pZ6gw8bkzWhjOI6gkatpuPlTehMiHLxD0mYwmcMZa3faH2K/CqgQ >> 2/+yj4+CslsiAZFuCHbOY6Voc3C0xA== =Xp0R -----END PGP >> SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ >> Dev mailing list [email protected] >> https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev > > > > _______________________________________________ Dev mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev > - -- SIP: [email protected] XMPP: [email protected] Tox: [email protected] GPG: 0x227CA7C556B2BA78 GNUSocial: @[email protected] Diaspora*: David P. (same XMPP ID) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEbbnEtPDYwNxDLPbkInynxVayungFAlkR7hQACgkQInynxVay ungS7wf+JnjEkRCQ9CpQbD1OZIMT9yvX16aK65g5RfvKw/R8Nqz8mqc2wOzSVG0q /gdfDYvdmuIbVzyQ7g0BR5SIylRKIZzWclaBLA6YJSZ4fm3c9LExuAFCnWd8YPVG gSh5ev71iIqLSzXuy55q8z2mVgE8XmN6cx6F1N2WiJIXzQ8C+78dqBwWVSA449Op axmeOBr6DjUUa3z3Qs9RLiZme17VIY7gvpOupl6OOqptz41QO0Ywb9QtSbsOiCp2 646l4IXh33vAKsJSrWDNMQaWDPec5avuxKLKd3gDi4ra86ujmkhTNOmruOB8UADU cZ2gt/Si69ycJhuLiKnwtmI/AgL/ZQ== =bZUC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Dev mailing list [email protected] https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev
