First, we're scaling the PR review, but we only have few active committers,
so the merge may not be fast.
Second, if someone has a *good* and *large* contribution history, and
actively participates in community, we will add him without doubt.
Third, 2-year old open PRs doesn't stand anything, some reviewers left the
community and PRs get staled, it is quite common, especially in large
community.

Sid Anand <san...@apache.org> 于2019年9月1日周日 下午4:46写道:

> Apache projects promote contributors to committers based on contributions
> made, not on an expectation of future activity. That's the Apache way per
> my understanding. Over time, folks become inactive and busy -- life
> happens, I get it.  May I ask what are you folks doing to scale PR review
> and merging? Are you adding new committers?  Do you feel that 2-year old
> open PRs is where you wish to be and is the right way to grow a community?
>
> On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 1:46 AM Sid Anand <r39...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Apache projects promote contributors to committers based on contributions
> > made, not on an expectation of future activity. That's the Apache way per
> > my understanding. Over time, folks become inactive and busy -- life
> > happens, I get it.  May I ask what are you folks doing to scale PR review
> > and merging? Are you adding new committers?  Do you feel that 2-year old
> > open PRs is where you wish to be and is the right way to grow a
> community?
> >
> > -s
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 12:59 AM Saisai Shao <sai.sai.s...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> It's unfair to say there's underlying bias. Livy project is a small
> >> project, the contributor diversity may not be as rich as popular project
> >> like Spark, it is not fair to say that the contributions only limits to
> >> someones, so project is biased. There're many small Apache project which
> >> has only few contributors, can we say those projects are biased? Also
> for
> >> years the committers have joined and left the community, it is hard to
> >> track every contribution in time, as we're not a full-time Livy open
> >> source
> >> contributors. I also have several PRs left unreviewed for years. It's
> >> quite
> >> common even for large project like Spark, Hadoop, there're so many
> >> un-merged PRs left for several years. It's unfair to say the project is
> >> biased, unhealthy because of some un-merged PRs.
> >>
> >> The community is small but free and open, I would deny that the
> community
> >> is unhealthy especially biased, this is an irresponsible and subjective
> >> word.
> >>
> >> Sid Anand <san...@apache.org> 于2019年9月1日周日 上午4:20写道:
> >>
> >> > Folks!
> >> > We've (several devs, myself included) contacted the livy dev list and
> >> the
> >> > owners DL several times. Our PRs stagnated over a few years. Livy is a
> >> > central component in PayPal's Data Infra (Our data footprint is 80+
> PB).
> >> > The project seems pretty unhealthy. After a few years, this dev moved
> on
> >> > and the state of our PR may be harder to define, with both absentee
> >> > mentors/PMC/committers and PR author.
> >> >
> >> > I see only a narrow band of contributors being merged. I hope there is
> >> no
> >> > underlying bias, given that this would not be the Apache way. As
> >> mentors, I
> >> > hope the goal is to watch for such bias and eliminate it to promote
> >> > community health, engagement, and integrity.
> >> >
> >> > -s
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 10:22 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> j...@nanthrax.net>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi Justin,
> >> > >
> >> > > Like Luciano, I'm also around. I've proposed couple of new features
> >> that
> >> > > I plan to work on and I try to review/verify the releases.
> >> > >
> >> > > Regards
> >> > > JB
> >> > >
> >> > > On 21/10/2018 01:50, Justin Mclean wrote:
> >> > > > Hi,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > We have discussed missing mentors on the incubator general list,
> >> > > identified those who may be missing and over a couple of months
> tried
> >> to
> >> > > contact your mentor in several ways but have got no reply so they
> have
> >> > been
> >> > > removed from the roster.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > If this is error, and your mentor is actually active, please
> >> contact me
> >> > > and I'll add them back to the roster.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > The IPMC will also do what it can to find extra mentors for those
> >> > > podling that need them.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks,
> >> > > > Justin
> >> > > > (V.P. Incubator)
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> >> > > jbono...@apache.org
> >> > > http://blog.nanthrax.net
> >> > > Talend - http://www.talend.com
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
>

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