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Alexandre Rafalovitch commented on LUCENE-6247:
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bq. I'm being explicit, thats not the problem. I think the problem is that you 
aren't listening.

Are you really sure I am not listening!?! If I am not listening, then why my 
slides at the Solr Revolutions were bitching about Solr distribution size with 
charts and all? You think I wasted my precious presentation time on that 
because it was an easy issue to raise?

There is a bad joke about Americans in a foreign country just repeating the 
questions (in English) louder when they are misunderstood. Similarly, I don't 
think using the same words again but in all caps (or with a blocker flag) is 
what will make a difference. You are being very explicit about *what you want* 
for Lucene. But when people come back and say that they disagree or only 
comment on a part of an issue, you are repeating exactly the same message just 
louder. I do not see you addressing different impacts on developers and final 
users. Impact is not just size, it's historical implications, 3rd party 
systems, etc. 

You asked for feedback, you got some, including some representing the issues 
you - as a hardcore developer - don't seem to care much about. You were unhappy 
that the feedback did not fully agree with your vision, so will now go ahead 
and do it *your way* anyway. Why did you bother asking then, apart from 
Grandstanding? 

The saddest thing is that people are mostly agreeing with you on this issue. 
Yet, the conversation is rapidly going in the direction where you will either 
abandon this with bitter complains or push things through in the way that only 
address your own concerns.

> artifacts are half a gigabyte
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>
>                 Key: LUCENE-6247
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-6247
>             Project: Lucene - Core
>          Issue Type: Bug
>            Reporter: Robert Muir
>            Priority: Blocker
>             Fix For: 5.0
>
>
> This is a growing problem and now, its spun out of control.
> The latest release artifacts are half a gigabyte. sorry, I am against adding 
> more retries to the smoke tester and continuing down the same path 
> (LUCENE-6231).
> Instead I open this blocker issue to discuss fixing this. Whenever i tried to 
> fix it before (e.g. removing zips), people complained at me "what are you 
> trying to fix" and wouldn't let me minimize it in the slightest.
> Now the problem is clear, we have a blocker issue to discuss it.



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