For me, there’s a sharp distinction between changing a dependency in a point 
release just because there’s a new version, and changing the dependency because 
there’s a bug in it. That said, if someone can use 8.6.3, what’s stopping them 
from going to 8.7 when it’e released? Would it make more sense to do the 
upgrades for 8.7 and get that out the door rather than backport?

FWIW,
Erick

> On Sep 28, 2020, at 1:45 PM, Jason Gerlowski <gerlowsk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> I wanted to add 2 more blocker tickets to the list: SOLR-14897 and
> SOLR-14898.  These tickets (while bad bugs in their own right) are
> especially necessary because they work around a Jetty buffer-reuse bug
> (see SOLR-14896) that causes sporadic request failures once triggered.
> 
> So that brings the list of 8.6.3 blockers up to: SOLR-14850,
> SOLR-14835, SOLR-14897, and SOLR-14898.  (Thanks David for the quick
> work on SOLR-14768!)
> 
> Additionally, should we also consider a Jetty upgrade for 8.6.3 in
> light of the issue mentioned above?  I know it's atypical for bug-fix
> releases to change deps, but here the bug is serious and tied directly
> to the dep.  SOLR-14897 and SOLR-14898 help greatly here, but the
> Jetty bug is likely still a problem for users making requests that
> match a specific (albeit rare) profile.  Anyone have thoughts?
> 
> Best,
> 
> Jason
> 
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 12:28 AM Houston Putman <houstonput...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>> 
>> If I recall correctly, thats a step in the release wizard.
>> 
>> After checking, I think this fits the bill:
>> https://github.com/apache/lucene-solr/blob/master/dev-tools/scripts/releaseWizard.yaml#L1435
>> 
>> - Houston
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 12:06 AM David Smiley <dsmi...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> When moving changes from 8.7 to 8.6.3, must we (the mover of an individual 
>>> change) move the CHANGES.txt entry on all branches -- master, branch_8x, 
>>> branch_8_6?  I expect the release branch but am unsure of the other two.  
>>> In the past I have but it's annoying.  Does the RM sync CHANGES.txt on the 
>>> other branches in one go?  If not, I think it'd make sense for that to 
>>> happen.
>>> 
>>> ~ David Smiley
>>> Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 6:22 AM Atri Sharma <a...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I will push the 8.7 release by a week to give Jason enough headroom to
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> do the 8.6.3 release.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Jason, let me know if you need me to assist on the 8.6.3 release.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 3:23 PM Jason Gerlowski <gerlowsk...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> OK, in that case I'll try my best to keep the 8.6.3 process moving
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> then, so Atri can stick as close to his proposed schedule as possible.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> My apologies - I didn't realize I'd be putting the brakes on 8.7 by
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> proposing a bug-fix release.  But the reasons make sense given what
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> others mentioned above.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> As branch_8_6 should be pretty stable by now I wonder if we really need 
>>>>>> to wait one week?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> There's no special reason on my end.  I suggested a week to give
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> others time to backport anything they wanted included, but I'm happy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> to start the process as soon as all the expected changes land.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Jason
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 1:48 AM Anshum Gupta <ans...@anshumgupta.net> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> Simultaneous releases are also confusing for users, in addition to the 
>>>>>> back-compat tests as our website chronologically lists our releases and 
>>>>>> it gets complicated for someone reading the 'News' page.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> As 8.7 isn't a release that needs to be rushed, waiting until 8.6.3 is 
>>>>>> released and back-compat indexes are pushed will make things easier for 
>>>>>> the RMs and community.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 1:43 PM David Smiley <dsmi...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jason: Thanks for volunteering to do an 8.6.3!  I recently fixed 
>>>>>>> SOLR-14768, multipart HTTP POST was broken in 8.6 (a regression I 
>>>>>>> introduced).  If you can't do the release or need help, I will take 
>>>>>>> over.  It's the least I can offer in repentance for the regression.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>> ~ David Smiley
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>> Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 10:07 AM Jason Gerlowski 
>>>>>>> <gerlowsk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I ran into a query-parsing bug recently in SOLR-14859 that caused
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> problems for some of my usecases.  I wanted to volunteer as RM for an
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 8.6.3 to get a bugfix release out for users that aren't ready for some
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> of the bigger changes in 8.7
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I was thinking of cutting the branch in a week's time to give others a
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> chance to backport any bug-fixes they might want included, with an RC
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> to follow shortly.  Does anyone have any concerns with that plan, or
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> have anything they'd like to fix or backport before an 8.6.3 goes out?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> 
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