On Fri, 2005-10-21 at 10:27 -0400, Chad Smith wrote:
> 
> Um, not really. Did you sign it, Daniel? Is there any power on earth that
> will get you to shell out $150 for MS Office? (Since you are a student and a
> teacher.) You don't even own Windows or a Mac! You *can't* buy their
> product.

I signed it and we resell Microsoft products. I only signed on behalf of
the machines I have on my desk, not those in the rest of the company or
the thousands we have installed in schools all over the UK. I'll let the
teachers there do that. No doubt there will be a few individuals who are
void of MS software. But since MS counts computers that run none of
their software in schools agreement, what is sauce for the goose is
sauce for the gander. Actually Daniel works for us and we sell MS
products so he is a MS customer in the distribution channel. I know his
laptop at least had Windows at one time on it so he ....

> MS would be absolutely right to say this petition is pointless. It's just a
> publicity stunt by the OpenDocument Foundation or Friends or whatever.

Well it does have a marketing function and that is perfectly legitimate
in that MS also market their products with "publicity" stunts. More to
the point, are you going to sign, Chad?

> And 700 signatures representing 40,000 computers? Okay, sure. Those numbers
> aren't trumpted up at all, I'm sure. Can I sign and say I have 100,000
> computers?

You can but you will be asked for evidence. We already thought of that.
We can also do statistical sampling to check accuracy and likely
uncertainties. Daniel has the maths to do that. 

>  Is there any checking up on these claims? 

Yes. Probably more factually accurate than MS's "Get the Facts"
Publicity stunt. BTW, this is the OOo marketing list so how come you are
so keen to degrade marketing strategies for ODF in favour of OOo's main
competitor. Shouldn't you be on the MSO marketing list?

> I actually do have like
> 20 computers, not all of them work - some are handhelds from the 90s. But I
> can count them, right? 

Yes, why not?

> Can I count my TV - it has a few computer chips?

As a rule of thumb, if it runs or has the capacity to run MS software,
count it. You are either a customer or potential MS customer so they
should be interested in you. The number of machines just weights your
importance in a rough sort of way.

>  So
> does my microwave, can I count that? I've got an Xbox and a PS2 - maybe I
> should count those...

See above.

> This is a huge waste of time. And it's only going to make ODF look more
> desparate for publicity.

Just keep posting Chad, its good for morale to have a laugh. Its getting
to the stage where if Chad says is sucks, it must be a good idea :-)

-- 
Ian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
ZMSL


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