As this post concerns the OpenOffice.org project, I am responding to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and would ask others who will inevitably respond to respond to this list.

Ryan: you also sent this note to the OpenDocument Fellowship; are you representing them or OOo in discussions with Linspire? OOo and OpenDocument Fellowship are not the same, of course, and their interests are not identical.

Context:
We had an extensive discussion on the issue, you recall, on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. The thread: http://marketing.openoffice.org/ servlets/BrowseList?list=events&by=thread&from=991649


On 2005-12-13, at 19:44 , Ryan Singer wrote:

Hello All,

Update to the email I sent in September. Heather contacted me again today, and both OpenOffice.org and The OD Fellowship are invited to have a booth and propose speakers for this event. We spent a few minutes on the phone brainstorming, and I have a few items here that we discussed.

1. We should invite either SUN, IBM or possibly both as a joint thing to talk about Open Standards such as ODF driving compitition, and Open Source, such as OOo doing well in that competitive environment. (Bob Sutor, Simon Phipps, any suggestions?)

"We"? You mean you and Heather? And aren't you getting a little ahead of things? If I recall, discussions ended on [EMAIL PROTECTED] with, "it is by no means clear that OOo as a project is interested in going to DLS. So, your inquiries are necessarily of the exploratory sort." I see they have progressed. In general, if there are willing booth beings, going to a conference is pretty much up to the group concerned. However, where OOo has to spend money (see your #4), the situation differs, and we then have to evaluate: is this worth it? Is anything gained? As far as I can tell, though there was some good derived in the education area, it's not clear that the conference really is worth the cost. Why not just go to the NEA conference (or its cognates), and skip Linspire's show, especially if they are not going to be funding travel & hotel; booth?

(FWIW, there is also the Southern California Linux Expo show around the same time; that would seem to be more meritorious.)

I would much rather devote funds to OSCON, and make a major presence there, than Linspire's DLS, which caters to a rather narrow audience and lacks the wide appeal of OSCON. Or even LWE, if we wish to reach corporations.




2. Linspire is interested in hearing proposals for technical discussions about OOo and / or ODF. Does anyone have any ideas they'd like to submit for a talk?

I am sure Linspire is... but funding is not irrelevant here. If people want to fund themselves, okay: that happens all the time.

3. Linspire is trying to branch out to education for this conference, so a talk about OOo and ODF in education (and in the business around education) is very much requested. Perhaps Ian Lynch would be interested in speaking at DLS this year?

Were Ian to go, whom would Ian be representing? OpenDocument Fellowship? Ingots? OOo?

4. Finally, booth staffing and sponsorship. Who can make it with a sponsor, who can make it without one, and who is willing to sponsor who. Please only reply to the mailing list with responses to this part as I don't want to flood the people I've CC'd on this message.

I am not sure, Ryan "we" want to make it. Other venues seem to have more appeal, have more weight, and will also benefit corporate sponsors more.



5. A panel discussion about the recent success of ODF and where things are headed has been floated. I would love to see Gary Edwards on such a panel, in addition to whoever SUN and IBM sent.

Perhaps you would love it from the OpenDocument Fellowship perspective? Perhaps you ought not to have so linked the OpenDocument Fellowship's interests with OOo's here?

6. Any suggestions for DLS this year? Last year went very well in my eyes, Linspire only has the venue for two days this time, so we don't have time to repeat the Regi-con, but I would love to make this a successful conference anyway.

I think it went well for the participants--they enjoyed themselves and bonded--but I do not think we should attend this year. There are other conferences with greater appeal, among developers, endusers, and corporations. I think it would be a mistake for OOo to attend this year's. OpenDocument Fellowship, of course, which Ryan also represents, can do as it pleases :-)







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Louis Suarez-Potts
Community Manager
OpenOffice.org


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