On 12/13/05, Louis Suarez-Potts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ryan: you also sent this note to the OpenDocument Fellowship; are you
> representing them or OOo in discussions with Linspire?  OOo and
> OpenDocument Fellowship are not the same, of course, and their
> interests are not identical.
>

I trust Ryan to take the best of each interests into account.

> "We"?  You mean you and Heather?  And aren't you getting a little
> ahead of things?  If I recall, discussions ended on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> with, "it is by no means clear that OOo as a project
> is interested in going to DLS. So, your inquiries are necessarily of
> the exploratory sort."

Remember those were your words and not the general consensus.  Some
get tired of trying  to continue fruitless discussions.

I see they have progressed. In general, if
> there are willing booth beings, going to a conference is pretty much
> up to the group concerned. However, where OOo has to spend money (see
> your #4), the situation differs, and we then have to evaluate: is
> this worth it? Is anything gained? As far as I can tell, though there
> was some good derived in the education area, it's not clear that the
> conference really is worth the cost. Why not just go to the NEA
> conference (or its cognates), and skip Linspire's show, especially if
> they are not going to be funding travel & hotel; booth?

I agree.  Without the Regicon the DLS wouldn't be much of a draw for
us.  I don't think it brings in the right vendors or enough people.  I
think there are better venues to look at.

> I would much rather devote funds to OSCON, and make a major presence
> there, than Linspire's DLS, which caters to a rather narrow audience
> and lacks the wide appeal of OSCON. Or even LWE, if we wish to reach
> corporations.

I agree with this also as long as the people that are at OSCON are
developers that can talk the talk with other developers.  I see LWE
just like DLS except bigger.  There should be a strong appearance
there as it gets more media attention.

> Were Ian to go, whom would Ian be representing?  OpenDocument
> Fellowship? Ingots? OOo?

Ooh good shot against the good guy.  If you were to go would you be
representing OOo? CollabNet? Sun?

Really, trying not to speak for him, I think he would represent
whomever fit into his talk.  If he talks about ODF then he could be
representing OpenDocument and OpenOffice as the success of ODF helps
the success of OpenOffice.

> Perhaps you would love it from the OpenDocument Fellowship
> perspective?  Perhaps you ought not to have so linked the
> OpenDocument Fellowship's interests with OOo's here?

Do you have a constructive idea instead?  Perhaps you forget that this
is a volunteer organization and he is volunteering his time to take
care of these things.  Don't criticize him for trying to kill two
birds with one stone.

>I think it would be a mistake for OOo to attend
> this year's.

I think it would be a mistake to spend any significant amount of money
on this.  Not necessarily a mistake to attend.

I have removed the CC's that weren't necessary for this conversation.


--

Adam Moore
Founding Member
http://www.opendocumentfellowship.org

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