Hello Charles, everybody,

I try to take into account not only your but some others answers as well...

Charles-H.Schulz wrote:
Hello Bernhard,

Bernhard Dippold wrote:

[...]

1) What is the interest of ODF and OOo? What are the
differences between them? Where do they overlap?



I'll put it simply: ODF is the default file format used by
OOo.[...] In the same way, the OD Fellowship advertises the ODF,
so while some of its advocacy may overlap the one for OOo, it is
still not the same and we should not mix the two. What's more the
OD Fellowship is one group among others advertising ODF.

Sorry for not being clear enough - with ODF I meant the OpenDocument
Fellowship, not the OpenDocument Format (I know what the format is
about).

The problem here seems to be, that all the people active in the
OpenDocument Fellowship are no longer regarded as representatives of
OpenOffice.org (at least by some important marketing and project
members).

I don't really know what stands behind these unexpressed reproaches
- but I think they should be pronounced (among the affected people
or with some kind of moderator). I doubt that these problems are
mainly based on different opinions about how marketing works - so I
don't think this list is the appropriate place for them. They (or we - if there is any interest) should talk in a smaller circle offlist.


2) Who is able to represent OOo (the community)?


I don't understand your question: who is able to represent us
where and for what?

I try to be clearer here too - even if there have been some answers
pointing at the direction I thought about:

I think a MarCon may decide on his own if he/she will attend a fair
as OOo representative - of course the OOo principles should be
followed, but all the people in such positions should be trusted by
the community (or be asked to withdraw).

The reason why someone is going to a fair is mainly to spread OOo - of course, there may be some other points, but I think, we should trust our MarCons to be able to differentiate between personal and projects goals.

I don't know if we need to define a minimum requirement for every official OOo booth - every nat-lang project started with a laptop and a OOo-logo on it's back. In my opinion it depends on the status of the fair - but we have to keep in mind that OpenOffice.org has been grown to a certain marketing position. If someone attends a small exhibition with local developer or end-user audience he/she doesn't need to have a 12 square meter booth with a banner of 3m length. On business fairs this is quite a different thing. But even this is taken in account by the MarCons, when they decide to go (or send someone) to a fair or not.

So my credo is: Trust our MarCons to act in the spirit of OpenOffice.org - or vote officially against them.

If we can't trust our local representatives we go on insulting and menacing each other - and that's the reason why this list is not in the state we want it to be.

I know that there are people having personal problems with one or another (may they be MarCons or not) - but without confidence in everybody here, that he/she wants to further OpenOffice.org (even on a different way), we will not be able to reach any goal together!

Best regards
Bernhard

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