Louis Suarez-Potts schreef:

Steven,

This is not the appropriate list for this post. We try to keep discussions here limited to marketing. It's hard to do, and I would appreciate it if you could help. For posts that deal with things that go beyond marketing, like your post, which touches on the infrastructure, use the [email protected] list.

Okay?

Thanks

Louis



On 2006-02-04, at 12:38 , Steven Pauwels wrote:

Dear all,

It is clear that the tools provided by SUN do mot match the needs of the community.... very clear.

Why doesn't the CC stop holding back community development? Are they affraid some people actually have good ideas? Are they affraid of delegating responsabilities?

The best way to loose cooperation and trust is by not wanting to accept that actually some people know what they are talking about.

With the words of Oppenheimer: "You are only as good as the people that surround you..." (but you have to let them surround you in the first place" (management...)

I see major opportunities and every time a good idea is discussed, .... "CC has decided that for now it is ok...." "... we have to focus on getting things done..."

These recurring discussions mean that there is a need... and the CC refuses to egnoledge this need.

maybe we could use moodle? Nice and adaptable, but I am sure there are other tools. If we need hosting with php and mysql support, I will provide it.

Steven P






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Hi Louis,

Hmmm, okay, but I do believe I read only marketing and art lists and I only mingle in the discussions that are going on there, or comment on them, or express my oppinion. So if I do not agree with what is discussed on marketing lists, and it seems to me like there are some discussions about fundamentals for marketing going on... , I can not post it in the marketing list? I thought it is to be an open community... so that is why I keep to the list where the issue is started... Actually, I can not agree to post anything that regards marketing in another list, even if my post contains comments on the CC. My intrests are marketing. Nothing else... This subject does not touch infrastructure, it expresses criticism on it. Take it and use it constructively. Listen to the ones that should actually get things done. But since this is an open community, I am shure this issue will find its way to the CC to be resolved.
Why not resolve it in  an open discussion where it started Louis?

Thanks,

Steven P

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