Hi Charles, all,
As I don't know if Kami reads [EMAIL PROTECTED] I CC'd him to point him to this
thread.
Charles Schulz schrieb:
Chad, Ian,
FYI: The templates that were bundled with the "OpenOffice Premium" thing
contained:
- a map of India that doesn't seem consistent with what India claims to
be its borders (see Kashmir) and that doesn't seem consistent with what
the UN says
- cliparts with nazi symbols, whose very presence inside a software is
illegal in many countries (not in Hungary though).
So the point is that we could have tried to make a more collective work
out of this and we didn't, and I'm not trying to blame somebody.
Kami told that he removes both as soon as he got notice of it. So this
is not the point IMHO.
In my eyes it's the licensing problem mentioned at the issues he filed
WRT his work:
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=62405 to 62408.
Parts of his additions are not "open" in the full sense of our
licensing: They are not allowed to be modified. If others are licensed
under GPL I don't really remember.
Fact is that he wanted his improvements to be included in the main
distribution and this wasn't possible because of the licensing restrictions.
These restrictions are not to be overcome easily, so Kami started to
distribute his expanded version via sourceforge.
The naming of his version should be known by everybody as he announced
it in January [1] and May [2]. Even if the January mail didn't make it
to this list (probably misread as SPAM on moderation), his mail from
May, 25th was clear and didn't get any replies here.
So if we see any marketing implications by the name OpenOffice.org
Premium, we should discuss it with Kami - he is an active member of OOo
and I'm quite sure he has an ear to our concerns.
Best way for all sides would be to include as many of Kami's additions
as possible in the main distribution - and for the templates and
cliparts not compatible to LGPL (or a third party license, if
applicable) create a macro like DicOOo to include them manually.
Then there would be no need for a "premium" version (and the official
version would not be downgraded by comparing it with "Premium").
If this way would be possible from marketing POV, we'll have to convince
people experienced in licensing questions to have a look at Kamis
extensions and to convince developers to code and integrate the patches
(I think, Kami would help here).
Just remember:
- OpenOffice.org Premium has been done by community members and is a
workaround because some of the additional items can't be integrated in
the main distribution.
- It's neither a fork, nor an attempt (IMHO) to divert people from OOo
to anything else.
Just my two cents...
Best regards
Bernhard
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