On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 3:57 AM, Juergen Schmidt <[email protected]> wrote: > On 1/11/10 9:28 PM, eric b wrote: >> >> Hi Alexandro, >> >> Le 11 janv. 10 à 20:51, Alexandro Colorado a écrit : >> >>> >>>> Telling about the education project could be one thing. I remember your >>>> presentation in Orvieto, Alexandro. It was full of ideas, but not so >>>> specific. It looks like a container of wishes for the next decade(s) >>>> or so >>>> ;-) To be really attractive, it might be shorter, more practical? >>> >>> Well of course, the Education project is considered a >>> "Young/Incubator" project so most things are still on it's way and >>> planned. >> >> Not exactly : we did a lot, but outside of the OOo website. > > that is my first question, why? > > Creativity >> >> needs freedom, and OpenOffice.org website does not exactly provide the >> tools we need. > > no objections for freedom but is this really true and have you tried it. In > case of your mentioned http://educoo.edulibre.org/ i see a drupal system the > same framework that we use for our extension site. We have several different > services under services.openoffice.org. Can you give concrete details > please.
I am not sure if this is the same case with Eric, but there is a lack of information on how to work with these "services", check the webdev ML for a current exchange about the need to document the process to put a site as a service. It seems that it needs to be evaluated and then see if it viable, however so far there are no names, no page, explaining the process. Per from Sweden has given his experience with QATrack and how the process was for him. But is true that so far is a resource we are not aware how to use. I experience the same thing on two similar projects. Templates repository - http://www.opentemplate.org OOo Planet - http://www.planetopenoffice.org > Should it be considered or evaluated again because the education project is > an official OpenOffice.org project and from my point of it should run under > the OOo umbrella and the typical OOo design. Would be helpful to know who are the "domain holders" and how exactly they operate. Document the criteria, processes and of course the contact information. >> >>> There is an ONG backing it up with EducOO and there is some real work >>> happening on some areas of education including OOo4Kids >>> (http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/) and Efforts. But some are still being >>> developed like the "CampusLibre" project. >> >> Just FYI : >> >> - we created strong links with the schools we worked with, and around 20 >> students have been mentored since two years >> >> - OpenOffice.org Education Project today counts ~ 110 members (was only >> 7 or 8 when I started ... ) >> >> - Campus Libre Project counts ~ 200 members : >> http://campus-libre.educoo.org/index.php > > my personal problem with this site is that it is french and i don't speak > french. What exactly is it, an education project besides the official > OpenOffice.org education project? I talk a little bit about it on my presentation about the education project and it does work as an OOo project, but still very "beta" and has just been available in French until it reaches more sustainability. >> >> - Edulibre (free Forge for collaborative work) is new and operationnal >> (we'll launch it soon officially) : http://educoo.edulibre.org/ >> >> - is the XO port *not* something concrete ? FYI, OOo4Kids will be in the >> next Sugar version : we created a strong link with another community > > what is the XO port? XO is the OLPC hardware: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OLPC_XO-1 > >> >> - Aren't ClassRooms concrete ? ( everything is on the OpenOffice.org wiki >> ) >> > they are and i think they are very useful. > >> >> >>> The goal of the presentation was giving exposure to the whole >>> Education project so it couldn't be very practical. >> >> >> Exactly : one hour is very limited, and the content is generic, but >> dedicated presentations can be done on demand. > > why haven't you replied on the FOSDEM CFP that i have send on the education > list as well. Too bad that we have the education project not there or > represented. I would be happy if you can provide us some information that we > can at least present at the booth. > > Juergen > >> >> >>> I am not sure that showing a fancy graph with the internal >>> organization and processes would be very enlightning or attractive to >>> someone that want to join the project. Instead I gave an overal >>> roundup on areas where they wanted to participate and if they thought >>> it was a good idea or not. Most of the wishlist did include starting a >>> project in their locality because WE NEED FUNDING. So yes, wishful >>> thinking means ... once we get resources we can do X or Y. >>> >> >> Yet another concrete fact : EducOOo ( http://educoo.org ) proposed to >> reverse 10 to 15% of the donations to help OpenOffice.org (students or >> Education related, but othr cases can be). >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Eric Bachard >> Lead, >> OpenOffice.org Education Project >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > -- Alexandro Colorado OpenOffice.org Español IM: [email protected] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
