Hi, Florian Thanks for your comment.
> I hope you are not discouraged because of the discussion that just came up. > I'm glad you contributed to the project, and I really value your > contribution, so please don't mistake this discussion as a criticism to your > work. No, I'm not discouraged. This is a great opportunity to discuss people in the project. > I'm all for covering people's expenses, but paying for actual work time is a > real challenge, and should occur in only real rare cases. I understood. What we need is to clarify fund issues with specific examples, because new comers like me don't know the rule. >> Secondly each country is trying to solve many issues specially human >> resources. Nakata-san is the JA project leader, so he always try to >> figure the issue out like other project leaders do. This request is >> not only for me but also other JA project members to motivate and step >> forward. > > Sure, some compensation will be an encouragement and can help in attracting > more people. But again, I see that this would be an unfair process. What > about all those other folks who contributed a lot over the past years? > People who work a few hours per day, every day, every week? We then would > also have to compensate them. Without engagement at OOoCon, OOoCon would not > take place. Without engagement in the marketing project, marketing would not > take place. Etc. Most of the time, it depends on a few people, but even > those few we cannot pay, it's just not possible. > > Don't get me wrong, I'd really love to have a good compensation, but for > that, our budget is too low, so we should spend it wisely on expenses. I see. Additionally my point is what the OOo project itself internationally is. How each country covers its budget and how we collaborate with each other are very important. This is totally ideal not reality, but as long as OOo exists, we can try to make it real to maximize our ability. >> Please don't misunderstand. The reason why I joined in the project is >> not for money. I love OOo and fully enjoy the benefits of OOo, so I >> wanna do something for the project. On the other hand systems to >> motivate project members are needed. How should we do? >> >> Sorry, this is just my impression, and I have no specific solution >> right now. I would love to discuss this issue and have to consider our >> organization both nationally and internationally. > > Again, I'm very sorry that you are the one who did the work, and then > discussions arose. I really value and respect your engagement, but I hope > you see where my concerns are, where the problems lie. > > Given the community feedback, and the opinion of the budget holders and > authorizers, I am sorry that we have to reject the request. > > I really hope this does not discourage you from future contributions. We > depend on volunteer work, and we try to use our ressources the best way > possible. However, in some cases, we might not satisfy everyone. I'm OK, and this is not a negative discussion, but again I think OOo project in each country is not isolated. We need to consider how we can collaborate continuously. Best regards KAZ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
