Hi, Florian An additional comment. I accepted your rejection.
Thank you. KAZ 2010/7/1 KAZUHIRO TERADA <[email protected]>: > Hi, Florian > > Thanks for your comment. > >> I hope you are not discouraged because of the discussion that just came up. >> I'm glad you contributed to the project, and I really value your >> contribution, so please don't mistake this discussion as a criticism to your >> work. > > No, I'm not discouraged. This is a great opportunity to discuss people > in the project. > >> I'm all for covering people's expenses, but paying for actual work time is a >> real challenge, and should occur in only real rare cases. > > I understood. What we need is to clarify fund issues with specific > examples, because new comers like me don't know the rule. > >>> Secondly each country is trying to solve many issues specially human >>> resources. Nakata-san is the JA project leader, so he always try to >>> figure the issue out like other project leaders do. This request is >>> not only for me but also other JA project members to motivate and step >>> forward. >> >> Sure, some compensation will be an encouragement and can help in attracting >> more people. But again, I see that this would be an unfair process. What >> about all those other folks who contributed a lot over the past years? >> People who work a few hours per day, every day, every week? We then would >> also have to compensate them. Without engagement at OOoCon, OOoCon would not >> take place. Without engagement in the marketing project, marketing would not >> take place. Etc. Most of the time, it depends on a few people, but even >> those few we cannot pay, it's just not possible. >> >> Don't get me wrong, I'd really love to have a good compensation, but for >> that, our budget is too low, so we should spend it wisely on expenses. > > I see. Additionally my point is what the OOo project itself > internationally is. How each country covers its budget and how we > collaborate with each other are very important. This is totally ideal > not reality, but as long as OOo exists, we can try to make it real to > maximize our ability. > >>> Please don't misunderstand. The reason why I joined in the project is >>> not for money. I love OOo and fully enjoy the benefits of OOo, so I >>> wanna do something for the project. On the other hand systems to >>> motivate project members are needed. How should we do? >>> >>> Sorry, this is just my impression, and I have no specific solution >>> right now. I would love to discuss this issue and have to consider our >>> organization both nationally and internationally. >> >> Again, I'm very sorry that you are the one who did the work, and then >> discussions arose. I really value and respect your engagement, but I hope >> you see where my concerns are, where the problems lie. >> >> Given the community feedback, and the opinion of the budget holders and >> authorizers, I am sorry that we have to reject the request. >> >> I really hope this does not discourage you from future contributions. We >> depend on volunteer work, and we try to use our ressources the best way >> possible. However, in some cases, we might not satisfy everyone. > > I'm OK, and this is not a negative discussion, but again I think OOo > project in each country is not isolated. We need to consider how we > can collaborate continuously. > > Best regards > KAZ > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
