I am reading the aggregate effect of these changes as a veto only exists
for a code commit.  For all other votes, there is no such thing as a veto.

+1

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 1:13 PM, James Sirota <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sorry, cut and paste error. Of course the original text currently says the
> following:
>
> -1 – This is a negative vote. On issues where consensus is required, this
> vote counts as a veto. All vetoes must contain an explanation of why the
> veto is appropriate. Vetoes with no explanation are void. It may also be
> appropriate for a -1 vote to include an alternative course of action.
>
> 16.12.2016, 10:54, "Nick Allen" <[email protected]>:
> > I don't see any changes in your "Change 1". Am I missing it? What
> changed?
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 12:01 PM, James Sirota <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >>  Based on the discuss thread I propose the following changes:
> >>
> >>  Change 1 - Replace:
> >>
> >>  -1 – This is a negative vote. On issues where consensus is required,
> this
> >>  vote counts as a veto. Vetoes are only valid for code commits and must
> >>  include a technical explanation of why the veto is appropriate. Vetoes
> with
> >>  no or non-technical explanation are void. On issues where a majority is
> >>  required, -1 is simply a vote against. In either case, it may also be
> >>  appropriate for a -1 vote to include a proposed alternative course of
> >>  action.
> >>
> >>  With
> >>
> >>  -1 – This is a negative vote. On issues where consensus is required,
> this
> >>  vote counts as a veto. Vetoes are only valid for code commits and must
> >>  include a technical explanation of why the veto is appropriate. Vetoes
> with
> >>  no or non-technical explanation are void. On issues where a majority is
> >>  required, -1 is simply a vote against. In either case, it may also be
> >>  appropriate for a -1 vote to include a proposed alternative course of
> >>  action.
> >>
> >>  Change 2 - Replace:
> >>
> >>  A valid, binding veto cannot be overruled. If a veto is cast, it must
> be
> >>  accompanied by a valid reason explaining the reasons for the veto. The
> >>  validity of a veto, if challenged, can be confirmed by anyone who has a
> >>  binding vote. This does not necessarily signify agreement with the
> veto -
> >>  merely that the veto is valid. If you disagree with a valid veto, you
> must
> >>  lobby the person casting the veto to withdraw their veto. If a veto is
> not
> >>  withdrawn, any action that has already been taken must be reversed in a
> >>  timely manner.
> >>
> >>  With:
> >>
> >>  A valid, binding veto regarding a code commit cannot be overruled. If a
> >>  veto is cast, it must be accompanied by a valid technical explanation
> >>  giving the reasons for the veto. The technical validity of a veto, if
> >>  challenged, can be confirmed by anyone who has a binding vote. This
> does
> >>  not necessarily signify agreement with the veto - merely that the veto
> is
> >>  valid. If you disagree with a valid veto, you must lobby the person
> casting
> >>  the veto to withdraw their veto. If a veto is not withdrawn, any action
> >>  that has already been taken must be reversed in a timely manner.
> >>
> >>  Please vote +1, -1, 0
> >>
> >>  The vote will be open for 72 hours
> >>
> >>  -------------------
> >>  Thank you,
> >>
> >>  James Sirota
> >>  PPMC- Apache Metron (Incubating)
> >>  jsirota AT apache DOT org
> >
> > --
> > Nick Allen <[email protected]>
>
> -------------------
> Thank you,
>
> James Sirota
> PPMC- Apache Metron (Incubating)
> jsirota AT apache DOT org
>



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Nick Allen <[email protected]>

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