Um, should have stated “non-binding”, on both recents.

On 12/16/16, 3:17 PM, "Matt Foley" <[email protected]> wrote:

    +1
    
    On 12/16/16, 10:30 AM, "Nick Allen" <[email protected]> wrote:
    
        I am reading the aggregate effect of these changes as a veto only exists
        for a code commit.  For all other votes, there is no such thing as a 
veto.
        
        +1
        
        On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 1:13 PM, James Sirota <[email protected]> 
wrote:
        
        > Sorry, cut and paste error. Of course the original text currently 
says the
        > following:
        >
        > -1 – This is a negative vote. On issues where consensus is required, 
this
        > vote counts as a veto. All vetoes must contain an explanation of why 
the
        > veto is appropriate. Vetoes with no explanation are void. It may also 
be
        > appropriate for a -1 vote to include an alternative course of action.
        >
        > 16.12.2016, 10:54, "Nick Allen" <[email protected]>:
        > > I don't see any changes in your "Change 1". Am I missing it? What
        > changed?
        > >
        > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 12:01 PM, James Sirota <[email protected]>
        > wrote:
        > >
        > >>  Based on the discuss thread I propose the following changes:
        > >>
        > >>  Change 1 - Replace:
        > >>
        > >>  -1 – This is a negative vote. On issues where consensus is 
required,
        > this
        > >>  vote counts as a veto. Vetoes are only valid for code commits and 
must
        > >>  include a technical explanation of why the veto is appropriate. 
Vetoes
        > with
        > >>  no or non-technical explanation are void. On issues where a 
majority is
        > >>  required, -1 is simply a vote against. In either case, it may 
also be
        > >>  appropriate for a -1 vote to include a proposed alternative 
course of
        > >>  action.
        > >>
        > >>  With
        > >>
        > >>  -1 – This is a negative vote. On issues where consensus is 
required,
        > this
        > >>  vote counts as a veto. Vetoes are only valid for code commits and 
must
        > >>  include a technical explanation of why the veto is appropriate. 
Vetoes
        > with
        > >>  no or non-technical explanation are void. On issues where a 
majority is
        > >>  required, -1 is simply a vote against. In either case, it may 
also be
        > >>  appropriate for a -1 vote to include a proposed alternative 
course of
        > >>  action.
        > >>
        > >>  Change 2 - Replace:
        > >>
        > >>  A valid, binding veto cannot be overruled. If a veto is cast, it 
must
        > be
        > >>  accompanied by a valid reason explaining the reasons for the 
veto. The
        > >>  validity of a veto, if challenged, can be confirmed by anyone who 
has a
        > >>  binding vote. This does not necessarily signify agreement with the
        > veto -
        > >>  merely that the veto is valid. If you disagree with a valid veto, 
you
        > must
        > >>  lobby the person casting the veto to withdraw their veto. If a 
veto is
        > not
        > >>  withdrawn, any action that has already been taken must be 
reversed in a
        > >>  timely manner.
        > >>
        > >>  With:
        > >>
        > >>  A valid, binding veto regarding a code commit cannot be 
overruled. If a
        > >>  veto is cast, it must be accompanied by a valid technical 
explanation
        > >>  giving the reasons for the veto. The technical validity of a 
veto, if
        > >>  challenged, can be confirmed by anyone who has a binding vote. 
This
        > does
        > >>  not necessarily signify agreement with the veto - merely that the 
veto
        > is
        > >>  valid. If you disagree with a valid veto, you must lobby the 
person
        > casting
        > >>  the veto to withdraw their veto. If a veto is not withdrawn, any 
action
        > >>  that has already been taken must be reversed in a timely manner.
        > >>
        > >>  Please vote +1, -1, 0
        > >>
        > >>  The vote will be open for 72 hours
        > >>
        > >>  -------------------
        > >>  Thank you,
        > >>
        > >>  James Sirota
        > >>  PPMC- Apache Metron (Incubating)
        > >>  jsirota AT apache DOT org
        > >
        > > --
        > > Nick Allen <[email protected]>
        >
        > -------------------
        > Thank you,
        >
        > James Sirota
        > PPMC- Apache Metron (Incubating)
        > jsirota AT apache DOT org
        >
        
        
        
        -- 
        Nick Allen <[email protected]>
        
    
    

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