I agree that Slack is too restrictive... I think I mentioned that in my
previous email. TBH, we should get rid of the Milagro Slack channel... I do
think it would be good to have a realtime communication channel but I guess
email / mailing list would be a start.

One more comment, from the MIRACL side, I'm planning for our Labs team to
(continue) to contribute to Milagro and help move it forward.

Just to reiterate, we need a clean starting point in the official Milagro
repo. To get there, we need to "audit" where code is currently located and
what code it is based on.

Finally, just one more question... again... someone in this thread said
earlier that a lot of Apache projects use GitHub which is something I think
we'd prefer for Milagro as well. Is there a "recommended" way of using
GitHub rather than the Apache git repo directly?

Thanks,
Patrick


On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Nick Kew <n...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 2017-07-04 at 08:41 +0000, Nikolai Stoilov wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Just to add a couple notes, the slack that was set up for the project is
> > https://milagro.slack.com/
>
> Two quite serious problems with that one.
>
> > I don't know why it isn't referenced on the project's website, but it
> > allows for people with emails @miracl.com, @apache.org, @milagro.io, @
> > ntti3.com, @po.ntts.co.jp, @lab.ntt.co.jp, @mulodo.com to sign
> themselves
> > up.
>
> That is fine for people already involved, but does nothing to
> open it to interested outsiders - including those who might,
> if made welcome, become the core developers of the future.
> It's too exclusive.  Even saying "just ask to join" can be
> a hurdle to the initially-timid.
>
> > Also, there is a slack bot installed that sends all conversations as
> > emails
> > to a selected address.
>
> Yes, I've seen that.  It's very inhibiting.  There are occasions
> when it makes sense (e.g. to archive a formal meeting), but for
> general chat it's the last thing you want!  And I'd hate to try
> and dig through interactive chat to *find* anything!
>
> That inhibition is probably why I've *never* seen traffic on
> the channel!
>
> --
> Nick Kew
>
>

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