After some discussion with David Loyd on IRC, the context has been clarified : Log2Log won't be an Apache project.

Here is the copy of this convo :

<dmlloyd> elecharny: don't worry - log2log is a completely separate project. No impact on MINA or any ASF project whatsoever - and thus it is out of Alex's (or anyone else's) jurisdiction :)
<elecharny> where will it be stored ?
<dmlloyd> jboss.org
<elecharny> ok
<elecharny> this was not clear in Trustin's mail...
<elecharny> so my question :)
<dmlloyd> it's a reasonable question :)
<elecharny> can you answer it on the ML so that Alex don't get mad ?
<dmlloyd> hm, well I think alex gets mad any time he sees the name "David Lloyd" and "Logging" together :)
<dmlloyd> but I can do so
<elecharny> dmlloyd, don't think that Alex has anything against you at all.
<elecharny> it's all about the way the ASF works
<dmlloyd> yeah, the whole veto thing
<elecharny> there are rules, they must be followed, thaht's it
<elecharny> in three years, Alex just vetoed one single thing, and it was the log proposal
<elecharny> pretty reasonnable ...
<dmlloyd> sure


Another thing that's I don't think is correct : I searched about an announcement on the SLF4j site about this MDC improvement and didn't found any. After some googling, I found the convos here :

http://www.nabble.com/basic-MDC-support-for-java.util.logging-td13142522.html

It's certainly mandatory to CC the MINA mailing list for such things, as it has an impact on the code base. Some of us may have some opinions or ideas about other technical solutions, and would prefer to be informed before any decision is made. And having to google to get the rationals is definitively painful...

This is the way we work, and it should be followed, for the good of the project !

Thanks.

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cordialement, regards,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com
directory.apache.org


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